pkinneb 3427 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 So I broke a couple of my Jet clamp handles off a couple years ago, ordered some replacements about a year ago, and this week while working through several shop projects stumbled across them. My question is this. After drilling out the rivets how would you guys fix these. My assumption is a small bolt and nut but wondered if anyone had a better solution for me? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robby W 263 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Pop rivets? A roll pin? If you use a nut and bolt, be sure to use a nylok nut. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BillyJack 353 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Looks like a trip to hone depot... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post wtnhighlander 7574 Posted December 30, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Mild steel pin and a ball-peen hammer. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chet 4887 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 I would probably go with a pop rivet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Coop 7457 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 I like @wtnhighlander‘s suggestion so there are no sharp edges. I have never broken one but have had to re-attach the little caps on the ends with epoxy when I did a job requiring epoxy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pkinneb 3427 Posted December 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Thanks guys! Going to head up to the hardware store tomorrow and see if I can find either pin's or rivets that will work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Coop 7457 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 May want to drill the existing pin out first before buying a replacement to insure the diameter? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wtnhighlander 7574 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 If you can find brass rod of appropriate diameter, it will be easier to peen, and plenty strong in that application. If you have something to use as an anvil, like a block of steel, use a twist drill to make a small depression in it. When peening the rod into a rivet, using the depression in the anvil to "catch" the end opposite the hammer will help retain the domed form. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
..Kev 5856 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, wtnhighlander said: If you can find brass rod of appropriate diameter, it will be easier to peen, and plenty strong in that application. If you have something to use as an anvil, like a block of steel, use a twist drill to make a small depression in it. When peening the rod into a rivet, using the depression in the anvil to "catch" the end opposite the hammer will help retain the domed form. The head of a second hammer will work well as a bucking bar to pean the other end. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wtnhighlander 7574 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Rex Kruger does a good job of explaining how to rivet a solid steel rod in this video. Jump to about 6:55 for that portion. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Immortan D 1716 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 I think Pop rivets will outlast those plastic handles anyways and you can install them in a split second. I wouldn't spend the extra time and effort setting pins. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tpt life 2756 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 If the pin drives the turning force, I disagree. You’d have slop without really beefy rivets. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robby W 263 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Pop rivets come in aluminum, steel and stainless steel. A pair of the, one from each side, should do the job easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom King 3747 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 It takes something besides a regular pop rivet gun to pop stainless rivets. I wouldn't expect anything else to hold, and even the stainless ones will loosen with this type of use. I doubt you can find the right kind of rivet at an average hardware store, but probably can on ebay. It seems like they would provide the proper rivets with the replacement handles. edited to add: just did a search for "steel solid rivets" on ebay, and everything you could want is there. Just need to know the length, and diameter. The two hammer method should work fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tpt life 2756 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 The diameter of easily available is where my slop comment came from. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
curlyoak 741 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 There is a pin peened over on the jorgensen bar clamps. I have in the past used a close sized finish nail to repair the clamp. It did nor look like factory. But it held. I never knew the term bucking bar but I get it. And I like it too. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Immortan D 1716 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, Tom King said: It seems like they would provide the proper rivets with the replacement handles Yup. The picture from the Jet website shows something in there: (part #70412H) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
..Kev 5856 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, curlyoak said: I never knew the term bucking bar but I get it. And I like it too. My Air Force sheet metal background coming out, sorry.. Just a heavy steel surface used on the back side of a solid rivet to form the "mushroom" head of the rivet. Heavy because it helps eliminate bounce. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom King 3747 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 On fancy gutter systems, I use aircraft rivets, which require a pneumatic rivet gun (short stroke air hammer), and a bucking bar to back the rivet up. "Bucking Bar" is the correct term. I already had those tools, since I was starting to build an airplane when I met the girl who became my Wife. The only time she'd been up in an airplane, it crashed, so that ended the airplane business. https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200451722_200451722?cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Air Tools %2B Compressors > Air Tools %2B Accessories > Air Punch %2B Rivet Tools&utm_campaign=Air Capital&utm_content=301110&&ds_e_ad_type=pla&gclid=CjwKCAiA57D_BRAZEiwAZcfCxZNyegXzIiac0aYH7gCYasWgHAe0rQKrArI7v2Cxel8btlb6MtuZeBoCOlIQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds https://aircraft-tool.com/shop/search.aspx?CATEGORY=RIVET+GUNS&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tpt life 2756 Posted December 30, 2020 Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 Bucking bars predate aircraft. They are heavily in use for wooden boat building when brass and bronze rivets are used. Leo just posted at length recently about different styles he had fabbed for rebuilding Tally Ho. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post pkinneb 3427 Posted December 30, 2020 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted December 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Immortan D said: Yup. The picture from the Jet website shows something in there: (part #70412H) Thanks nothing else with mine. Having said that you all have me thinking this is a job for my brother and his team. He is the crew chief on a corporate jet and should have what's needed and he owes me. I made a crate for the $25K crapper on the jet so they could send it back to the mfg for inspection. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post ..Kev 5856 Posted December 31, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 31, 2020 45 minutes ago, pkinneb said: Thanks nothing else with mine. Having said that you all have me thinking this is a job for my brother and his team. He is the crew chief on a corporate jet and should have what's needed and he owes me. I made a crate for the $25K crapper on the jet so they could send it back to the mfg for inspection. In that case, he should have access to a rivet squeezer which will go much faster! This is what I got my training on... Many moons ago! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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