Woodworkers Guild of America.....REALLY


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So my wife tosses the envelope at me and it from WW Guild of America...which I have never heard of, not that that means anything.... in it is a dvd and they $$ for getting more....interesting, not really.

So here is my point -

- are there a lot of people out there who will pay for this content when there is so much great stuff online? I know that there are a lot of no computer people out there, but still.

- you don't have to do much beyond watch it and toss it, they can't charge you for something that you did not request

I haven't watch the DVD yet, was just wondering if others are getting this....it would be nice to know who is selling my name.

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Yes, there are people out there who do not know that there are wood working communities online that can provide as much or more information as this guild. Not having received this DVD, I cannot state what information is presented.

It comes down to stumbling across the links, or having someone direct you to them. I stumbled on the website for the Wood Whisperer completely by accident. I happened to be searching through iTunes for wood working podcasts. Marc's voice was clear and understandable, the camera angle was back far enough I could see what was around the bench as well as the work being done at the time, and there were no shadows in the video. In comparison, I also opened a podcast from T-Chisel, and was completely unimpressed. The video quality was grainier, the accent difficult to chew through, and the lighting felt very dark and secretive.

now, I realize that Tommy Mac has the high production television show because, in part, of his podcast. I have caught a few episodes, completely against my initial will, and the quality of the production has definately improved.

But before three years ago, I was completely at a loss for any wood working knowledge. The one store I knew of was in the process of closing, and I did not know anybody else who did any woodworking. Now, I know a handful of people in "Real Life" who work with wood, as well as several people from the various online communities. And I still stumble upon locations and information completely by accident.

If I might bite on the DVD and the promises it offers, others most definately would.

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So here is my point -

- are there a lot of people out there who will pay for this content when there is so much great stuff online? I know that there are a lot of no computer people out there, but still.

Hard copies (books, DVDs, etc), in my opinion, automatically get a little bit more respect. To get it to that stage takes a greater investment so to make it worthwhile to them, it should be good content. Internet stuff - forums especially - are comparitively inexpensive to get out your message. This is not to say that the internet-based database isn't as valuable as hard copies. Just as with hard copies, there are many very good presenters of knowledge (such as Marc), but there are also some duds. I think that you are more likely to find a dud on the internet than in a book. For someone starting out with zero base knowledge, a reliable body of knowledge is very important. Those of us with more experience are able to sort through the bogus and find the good stuff. Does that make sense?

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Let me guess... was the return address somewhere in Minnesota?

If so, avoid like the plague. Back when I was getting into this stuff I got a mailing from the Handyman Club of America tempting me with a magazine subscription and the "opportunity" to test and keep fabulous tools. Regretfully, I bit. Even, after much harassing and promise of more tools, signed up and paid to be a Life Member.

Now I'm stuck with a useless lifetime magazine subscription and a small handful of crappy tools. I've "reviewed" exactly one tool that was worth keeping, an Irwin XL quickgrip clamp. Everything else, and there was very little, was on the order of Harbor Freight/Flea Market stuff.

My wife, not paying attention to my mistake, did the same thing with the company's "Home Arts" club. They also have a "Garderner's Club" "Hunters/Fishermans Club" and countless others.

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I bit on that same magazine subscription, Allen. I have yet to review any tools, but I did get a free set of screw extractors that I have used exactly once. And I was looking for an excuse to try them. They used to have better offerings, but I have not seen them in a while.

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I received one of those discs several years ago too. I'm sure it came as a result of some magazine subscription that sold my name.

But you're absolutely correct about people not knowing of the online communities of woodworkers or even real world guilds and clubs. When I started my show over five years ago I was the only podcast on the Internet until Marc came along. Talk about feeling alone!

But it didn't take long to start hearing from fellow woodworkers who were searching for content and chances to connect and learn. In fact, one of my major goals in that first year was to try and find as many resources to help not only myself become a better woodworker, but to help anyone who had a question.

It's amazing how different the online woodworking world is between when I started and now. I think back then even the magazines barely had nothing more than a couple web pages. For sure what the current issue had in it's index and then usually how to subscribe. Now look at them!

I know a lot of people don't like my show because I don't have the time to put into the high production value that would make it almost TV ready, but that was never my intention. I just wanted to share my passion and maybe learn something along the way.

Although, maybe I should buy some addresses and try this disc extortion thing CHORTLE!

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