mds2 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Inspired by Lawrence's post I decided To make a few wine holder balance thingys. My co-worker's parents have a carvewright and he likes to mess around with it when he goes home to see them. Anyway, in the picture you will see the carved monogram and where I applied stain. This actually turned out better than what I was imagining. But there has to be a better way. Im not surprised by the bleed. But what else can I try. I have 9 more of these so I can experiment. A photo posted by mikesnodgrass (@mds22) on May 29, 2012 at 7:00pm PDT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicks82 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I would maybe put a sealer on before carving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mds2 Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Before carving or before staining? They are all carved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicks82 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 I was thinking before carving. Didn't even think about them all being carved. have you tried to sand it after staining? it's posable that it didn't go deep enough that you could sand it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mds2 Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Yes, I did sand it with 80 grit afterwards and it removed a good portion of it. I'm just thinking there has got to be a better way to do the next one but I don't know what that might be. I should mention that I did tape off the top flat side of the wine holder before applying the stain. I dont know if that makes any sort of difference or not. But I figured it couldn't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicks82 Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 The only thing i can think of is to go around the letters with a small artist brush and seal around it with some shellac then stain. If any of the sealer gets in the letters should not be to hard to take a chisel and exacto knife to clean that up before staining. After the stain is dry sand the whole thing and top coat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mds2 Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Ok I'll give that a shot tomorrow. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 First off.... im humbled that my work was an inspiration...... I seal the wood after carving in almost every case. Shellac or lacquer will work well. Another factor is the type of finish that you use- marsh's spray ink for example,sits on the surface and doesnt bleed in. I get mine from eagle america wwwing. Im on vacation right now and typing this from a phone but will try to post a quick "how to" when i return if you'd like. Id love to see the final piece Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 One more thing... no need to be careful with neatness when you shelllac... if you dont want it on the final surface just sand/plane off after staining..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jHop Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Like Lawrence said, try Shellac. Also check out Marc's video on the rocking horse charity build: he goes through this step when staining up the mane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mds2 Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 A photo posted by mikesnodgrass (@mds22) on May 30, 2012 at 6:56pm PDT Here is the next test. With the smallest brush I could find I, as delicately as I could, painted the vertical walls with shellac. I'm not made for that sort of thing. Anyway I'm still not happy with the results, but looking at it in person you can see that it really isn't carved very well. Lots of tearout and it isn't close to flat. Maybe need a sharper bit? I have no idea, ive never used the machine. 8 more to mess with. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mar10 Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 I would recommend using a different font, not more than .06” to .08” deep. And a Woodcraft paint pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 I do like the paint pens... they are very nice at what they do. Again though just to clarify.... you dont need to be tidy with the shellac. Just paint it on/in and if you dont want it on your final surface just sand/scrape/or plane it off. It would help me if i could see your mpc to see if i have any other suggestions, but i cant view them until i get home from vacation Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mds2 Posted June 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 I looked at woodcraft's site and I couldn't find anything called a "paint pen". Is there another name for it? Sorry I have no clue about what I am trying to do. Mpc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capnjack2 Posted June 1, 2012 Report Share Posted June 1, 2012 They sell those paint pens in craft stores and hardware stores, too. They are great. Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mds2 Posted June 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Here are the finished products. having a garage sale today so I thought I'd set them out. I ended up using acrylic paint in the carved portion than I sprayed them with polyurathane. Im happy with the results, the next batch I plan on doing a little differently. Now, if someone would buy them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawrence Posted June 22, 2012 Report Share Posted June 22, 2012 Those look GREAT (and the wine bottle stands up sideways too!) Well done and good luck. Even if you don't sell them all perhaps you'll get a future customer Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn pete Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Very cool! Let us know how they do at the sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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