jab73180 Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 Hello fellow knuckle draggers. I just got my new Hock bench plane iron and chip breaker tonight. That really smahtened up my jack plane let me tell you what. If there was a spot between noob and beginner, thats where i would be in terms of experience. That blade makes my work look professional now. I have read bits and pieces of The Schwarz's book The Anarchists Tool chest and took his advise on using a couple different irons in one plane. I took the original iron that came with it and added a 8" radius for rough work and bought this hock blade for jointer and smoothing work. Thank you Hock and what a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pants Posted January 18, 2012 Report Share Posted January 18, 2012 I replaced the iron and breaker in my flea market #4 as the original blade was shot. I've been extremely happy with it, high quality stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djtheall Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 YES! I also just received a new Hock Iron and Chip Raker for my flea-market Bailey #5. All I can say is WOW! Right out of the mailbox I went ahead and shaved the back of my hand clean of all hair. When my wife asked why I told her "because I can..." . Seriously though, blades from Hock Tools are well worth the price. I bought the High Carbon Steel model and put it straight to work. It is without a doubt the best investment I've made in my long tool purchasing history. I will be upgrading the rest of my hand planes very soon. Thank you Hock Tools and The Wood Whisperer for the recommendation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchesterpa Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 A question for those who have used a Hock replacement blade: I picked one up for a cheap Stanley Bailey #7 I stumbled on. But the throat is too narrow for the thicker blade. I went to start using a mill file to open the throat a bit and discovered that none of my mill files will fit into the throat either. Has anyone opened a plane throat and if so what size/brand mill file did you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pants Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Not in my case, I had to move the frog back a little, but the mouth itself was big enough for the iron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croessler Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I believe Ron Hock warned folks about the issue with thicker blades on his website. I have a pre-lateral #8 that had the original blade an installed the Hock replacement. In order for it to fit I had to move the frog way back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateswoodworks Posted February 5, 2012 Report Share Posted February 5, 2012 In my pre war #6 I have the Hock iron with chip breaker and my 604 Bedrock that has the Hock iron. I have tried that iron in my pre-war #4 and #5 all of which I only had to adjust the frog. Just out of curiosity WCPA, how old is your #7? Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wchesterpa Posted February 8, 2012 Report Share Posted February 8, 2012 I actually have no idea how old the #7 is but I'd guess it's fairly late. (Know of any quick links for identifying Stanley Plane age?) The throat is no more than 3/16s wide. I bought a new mill file that's just under an 1/8 thick and have managed to open it up a bit. The Hock fits fairly well in my Stanley Bailey #6. I suppose I could move the frog back further but once it's past the back of the throat it really doesn't matter does it? The blade will just be unsupported by the frog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justinh Posted February 9, 2012 Report Share Posted February 9, 2012 Here is a site that has everything you need to date your Stanley Planes. http://hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/start_flowchart.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Hock Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 A few of the older Stanley types have Very Narrow Mouths. When the frog is adjusted back to accomodate the thicker blade, the heel of the bevel hits the rear edge of the mouth. It's not a common problem, I may get a couple of calls a year about it. To use a thicker blade (and they can only be so much thicker, too much and the adjuster lever won't reach through the blade to engage the breaker) in these rare cases you are going to have remove some metal from the mouth. Where, exactly, you ask? Take a close look at the leading edge of the mouth. That front edge holds the shavings down to help avoid tear out. And, especially with these older plane, those shavings actually wear that leading edge and round it over. To do it's job well, the front edge of the mouth must be in good shape. If the front edge of your plane's mouth is not straight across, sharp and square, now would be good time for this once-or-twice-in-a-lifetime maintenance task. Scribe a line across the sole at the mouth and carefully file the mouth's front edge straight and crisp. Now see if the blade fits. If it still hits the sole at the back of the mouth, take some metal off at the rear of the mouth. Filing the rear of that slot requires far less care and precision than the front. Take off enough to allow the new blade to fit properly and off you go. Let me know if you need more, or clearer, help. Good luck, Ron Hock www.hocktools.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayWC Posted March 4, 2012 Report Share Posted March 4, 2012 First of all, I'm a Normite by upbringing during my formative years working in the woodshop with my grandfather, but I've recently become more of a blended shop. So, I ordered two Hock chip breakers and blades this last year for a #3 and #5 that had been sitting collecting dust on a shelf. The new parts sat in my drawer along with the old rusted out chip breaker and blades until recently due to my project load. I have the #3 tuned and running. The #5 is awaiting it's new parts until I can practice and refine my camber technique. I was a little un-happy with how the blades were packed that the #5 blade wound up with a 1/32" deep gouge about 1/4" long in the cutting edge, but I'm impressed with the quality of the parts. I figure I just have to dress back past the nick (and of course it's right in the center where the camber won't dress it off) then I'll be good. Go Hock replacement parts!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayWC Posted March 5, 2012 Report Share Posted March 5, 2012 AND...just so everyone knows...I was contacted by Ron to remedy the situation. I told him I'm going to pass because over the life of the blade I'll remove a fair amount of metal myself. BUT...I was impressed to receive a personal message. Kudos to Hock Tools! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateswoodworks Posted March 6, 2012 Report Share Posted March 6, 2012 I am sure once you get the work done you will love it. I have Hock blade in my 604 and blade and chipbreaker in my #6 and couldn't be any happier. Later this year I am going to upgrade the irons in my #5 and my daughters #3 (I use it a lot too but it does make me feel better when I hand over the $'s knowing it is going in her plane !!) -oh what a happy day that will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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