MisterDrow Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 I have an old Craftsman 113.xxxx table saw (sadly not the belt-driven model). Thus far (aside from a mediocre fence that I can't wait to replace) it's been a great saw. I am wanting to buy a dado stack for it and already have the factory insert for one. The manual for it says that it is supposed to use a 7" dado stack... nearly all of them I see online and at the store are 8" so I assume this is a non-standard thing (or maybe it was standard at one time). The question I have is, can I still safely use an 8" dado on it as long as I keep it low enough to clear the insert (or make my own) or should I seek out a 6-7" dado instead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 If I recall, it has something to do with the weight put on the motor arbor due to the saw being direct drive. I have a Delta direct drive saw and use the short dado stack. The only issue you may have is when you cut half lap joints. You just can't get the depth of cut on thicker stock. But there are workarounds for that. Hope this helps. -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 If I recall, it has something to do with the weight put on the motor arbor due to the saw being direct drive. I have a Delta direct drive saw and use the short dado stack. The only issue you may have is when you cut half lap joints. You just can't get the depth of cut on thicker stock. But there are workarounds for that. that's what I was wondering. I figured it was more a limitation of the direct-drive motor than anything. What are the work-arounds you speak of with regard to half-laps? Also, I just want to say that I think it's dumb that 90% of the 7" dadoes you can find online are wobble blades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 What are the work-arounds you speak of with regard to half-laps? Router comes to mind. Hand cut. Let google be your friend -Ace- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Router comes to mind. Hand cut. Let google be your friend -Ace- LOL I know about those... I thought you were saying work-arounds for the size of dado stack! Looking on eBay, I found some 7" stacks that aren't wobble... but none of them appear to be carbide tipped, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Looks like even with a 6" dado stack (which is more readily available) I can still cut up to 1.5" deep... not sure why I would need dados deeper than that and if I do, like @AceHoleInOne said, I can use an alternate method. The Freud set on Amazon is only $65... maybe I'll bite on that one and try it out. Nothing like posting a question here and then answering it myself 10 mins later... LOL Thanks to all who have looked! and thanks for the response, @AceHoleInOne! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Looks like even with a 6" dado stack (which is more readily available) I can still cut up to 1.5" deep Umm....possibly this may not apply to your saw. Being direct drive, you lose depth of cut (at least on my Delta saw) due to the fact, the motor has to have room to fit under the cast-iron tabletop. Basically, the motor bottoms out directly under the tabletop.. You have to subtract that distance. My saw is in storage right now and I can't get a measurement. Perhaps look at your manual. It should tell how deep a cut with a dado stack. -Ace- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Very good point. I'll have to measure it when I am home and see. Thanks for that thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just use a 10" blade and raise the blade all the way up. Note the distance from the top of arbor hole on the blade in relation to the top of the table. -Ace- Very good point. I'll have to measure it when I am home and see. Thanks for that thought! Hey man your welcome...not all of us have a shop full of mustard colored equipment . Glad to be of help. -Ace- 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 What is the last part of the model number? With Sears, the first three numbers usually correspond to who made the product for them. 113 is an Emerson. On the Craftsman I had you couldn't use an 8" dado at 3/4" wide because it would hit the motor casting, IIRC. I went with a 6" Oshlun and have been using it since, even when I upgraded the saw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted September 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 It's the 113.298051... a direct drive model but it has been far superior to the Skil table saw I started out with. That thing was scary to use. According to the manual, 13/16" is the widest dado stack it will hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave's Not Here Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 Color me confused. I was not aware that Emerson made a direct drive table saw for Sears. Most direct drive table saws that I'm familiar with are only capable of sawing a 1/2" wide dado also. Is the motor on your saw inside the cabinet or hanging on the back end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted September 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Inside the cabinet. Here's a link to the page in the manual that talks about the dado width: http://www.manualslib.com/manual/480033/Craftsman-113-298051.html?page=23#manual 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterDrow Posted September 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2016 Well, I bit the bullet and ordered my 6" dado stack and also snagged an Incra Miter1000 miter gauge to replace my crappy stock one. Should be here tomorrow (Thank you, Amazon Prime)! They are going to help SO MUCH with some projects this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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