luthierdan Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 Hello, I am soliciting recommendations for a durable spray finish,type and brand,for kitchen cabinets. I live in California and some products are difficult to procure because of VOC regulations. I do have a spray booth with explosion-proof fan etc. Regards, luthierdan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 I've been looking for the same thing and at first I was inclined to go with an oil base paint product, but after some research I'm leaning towards the ProClassic® Interior Acrylic Latex by Sherwin Williams. Haven't tried it yet, but my plan is to spray my new kitchen cabinet doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 General Finishes Enduro - pigmented poly. It's California friendly, great for cabinet work and formulated to spray. -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luthierdan Posted March 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 I should have specified that I am looking for a clear, semi-gloss finish for stained cabinets. I could spray lacquer but was looking for something more durable. luthierdan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 General Finishes Enduro Clear Poly or the General Finishes High Performance for toughness and water resistance. General Finishes Enduro Lacquer has good water resistance not as durable as the above. -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Paolini Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 I should have specified that I am looking for a clear, semi-gloss finish for stained cabinets. I could spray lacquer but was looking for something more durable. luthierdan Not sure if you can get it in CA, but Minwax Water Based Oil Modified Polyurethane works pretty darn good. I came across it at lowes, so it's easy to find most places. I dilute it 10%, and spray it through a 1.4 HVLP. It levels great, drys rock hard - No gumminess like a lot of the WB laquers, and it even has an amber tint to it. It's about $40 a gallon too. I've used it on a few bath cabinet jobs, and it hasn't disappointed me. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Not sure if you can get it in CA, but Minwax Water Based Oil Modified Polyurethane works pretty darn good. I came across it at lowes, so it's easy to find most places. I dilute it 10%, and spray it through a 1.4 HVLP. It levels great, drys rock hard - No gumminess like a lot of the WB laquers, and it even has an amber tint to it. It's about $40 a gallon too. I've used it on a few bath cabinet jobs, and it hasn't disappointed me. Hope this helps! No gumminess like a lot of the WB laquers Interesting Greg, could you explain a little more about the gumminess you have experienced? -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Paolini Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 No gumminess like a lot of the WB laquers Interesting Greg, could you explain a little more about the gumminess you have experienced? -Ace- Ahhh... I knew that would get some interest... Actually, Gumminess is from operator error, not from the product. Waterbased laquers, in my experience, need to go on in thin coats to allow for quick drying and curing of the product. However, I tend to apply them a little heavy, especially when spraying horizontal surfaces, in an effort to speed up my build time. The problem is, the WB laquers seem to dry/cure much slower when applied heavy. It's almost a geometric progression for the retarded cure time. Example, if a standard coat of WB Laq takes 2 hours to dry to a powder sanded coat, then a double thick layer will take 8 hours, rather than 4 (2 coats times 2 hours each). Again, this is just my experience, and is rooted in my impatience, and not in the product. For what it's worth, most of the WB laquers out there do a great job on cabinets - I particularly like the Hood Resisthane - Only draw back is it's available only from the manufacturer. -gp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sancho Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 If you live in So. Cal, check out Austin Hardware in Santa Ana. They sell General Finished Enduro. Its all I use, sprays great. It was orginally formulated for spraying. It comes in many different sheens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Ahhh... I knew that would get some interest... Actually, Gumminess is from operator error, not from the product. Waterbased laquers, in my experience, need to go on in thin coats to allow for quick drying and curing of the product. However, I tend to apply them a little heavy, especially when spraying horizontal surfaces, in an effort to speed up my build time. The problem is, the WB laquers seem to dry/cure much slower when applied heavy. It's almost a geometric progression for the retarded cure time. Example, if a standard coat of WB Laq takes 2 hours to dry to a powder sanded coat, then a double thick layer will take 8 hours, rather than 4 (2 coats times 2 hours each). Again, this is just my experience, and is rooted in my impatience, and not in the product. For what it's worth, most of the WB laquers out there do a great job on cabinets - I particularly like the Hood Resisthane - Only draw back is it's available only from the manufacturer. -gp Lot of factors go into dry time. Finishes start curing immediately after they dry. Depending on what kind of product it is, who made it, type of environment it’s drying in, # of coats, thickness of coats, could be 7 to 30 days before full cure. Also thinning water-based with water, you already guessed it, slows the dry. Highland Woodworking, I believe carry the Resisthane? -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimV Posted March 23, 2011 Report Share Posted March 23, 2011 I used Sherwin Williams system. I got the "recipe" from the finisher of a custom kitchen cabinetry shop. Mine was on hard maple so here it is: Spray Light coat of Bulls Eye Shellac Sanding Sealer Spray Stain coat of Cinnamon Wiping Stain, let sit 5-10 min and wipe Spray Shellac sanding sealer Spray light coat of Cinnamon Wiping Stain again, do not wipe this acts like a glaze Spray Shellac sanding sealer Spray 0.5% by volume brown dye/Lacquer thinner solution Spray Shellac sanding sealer Spray Sherwin Williams Vinyl Sealer Spray Sherwin William Cab-Acrylic Lacquer lightly sand, and spray 5 more coats of the Cab-Acrylic Lacquer lightly sanding to remove nibs between coats. Tha sheen I used was dull rubbed effect. Kitchen Photos Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjffineww Posted March 29, 2011 Report Share Posted March 29, 2011 I like M.L. Campbell's products. Their Magna Max lacquer is really nice, more durable than regular pre cat. And if you want a little more protection they have conversion varnish, which I believe is called Krystal. Not sure if you can get it in your area, but very nice professional finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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