steve_au Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I have a tail vice I am going to retrofit it is from hnt gordon. http://www.hntgordon.com.au/bench-vices/product/176-aluminium-tail-vice-100mm-incl-one-1-4-high-dog.html My bench top is a solid wood laminated. My question is should I install it in the solid part of the bench or can the cut out cross the glue line in the lamination. I was thinking in the solid wood without cutting the glue line as I thought it may weaken the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 ==>cross the glue line What adhesive did you use to laminate the bench? If something like epoxy, then it doesn't much matter. If you intend to plane narrow stock and/or use side-bevel / molding planes? Then keep the vice near the edge and cross the line, if necessairy... The thing is 32mm square, so will you need to cut through the top slab, or just trench? If just a trench and you still have 2+ inches intact, then it doesn't much matter. If you are really worried, you could glass-bed the vise -- let you google that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_au Posted May 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 I used titebond glue and just need to trench it. not sure if I have 2 inches under it will have to check tomorrow. Thanks for your advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 Didn't mean to be so literal, the 2" isn't an important number -- it's more about having a sufficient stock remaining to keep the slab strong with a 35x35x280 of stock removed... If there is not a lot of stock remaining, then I’d look at some bedding and bonding application notes from Gougeon: http://www.westsystem.com/ss/use-guides/ Gougeon Brothers has made their classic on boat building free in PDF format: http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/GougeonBook%20061205.pdf It’s the unofficial bible for those combining hardware and wood... Chapter 14 would be of most interest to woodworkers... While focused on through-hull and surface hardware bonding, the techniques are extensible to DIY, improving fastener-holding in sheet goods and end-grain, etc. Anyway, good luck... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 The glue line is irrelevent; it's as strong or stronger than the wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 ==>The glue line is irrelevent; it's as strong or stronger than the wood. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 ==>The glue line is irrelevent; it's as strong or stronger than the wood. Maybe. Should have qualified: if done right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted May 22, 2015 Report Share Posted May 22, 2015 That's what I was waiting for... Don't be surprised on mixing/application technique issues... I've cut-apart many many joints and laminations over the years -- it's surprising just how many times I find voids, dry spots, etc -- happens way more than you think.... When laminating for structure, I use 105+207... Actually, I use epoxy for anything structural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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