duckkisser Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 i bought some glue at the local hobby store for making a ca finish. kinda price 5 dollers for 1oz seems like ill end up needing more then that over the long term. anyone know where i can get some in larger quantities for a resonable price. gorilla makes a glue that is 2oz for same price but i dont think it has cyanoacrylate in it will that be a problem? maybe something that is 2-5 oz bottles that i can use? what do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeyBourgoin Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I have had good luck with the CA Titebond glue, http://m.woodcraft.com/Product/2021102/24487/Instant-Bond-CA-Adhesive-Thin-2-oz.aspx I usually get it at my local woodcraft. It is also on sale right now. Plus it works good to fill in small void when turning punky or salted wood. I would suggest some accelerate also. I use it when filling the void after I dab the glue in the void. It just builds up quicker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 hmmm not much of a plus its kinda expensive going to see how this stuff works from hobby lobby. buy two bottle for the cost of one with the same amount in the bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semmons23 Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Amazon and mcfeeys have 8/4/1 oz bottles of titebond. Don't know if you'll like the price or not. http://www.mcfeelys.com/product/INST-BOND-THIN/Titebond-Instant-Bond-Glue--Thin/?ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=158440 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 $4.18 a oz for the big one not bad too bad i cant buy in bulk quanties like a gallon of it then i can glue myself to the wall. if anyone know a better price then 4.18 then holler thanks semmons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CessnaPilotBarry Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Be aware that CA has a shelf life. Once the package is opened, it will slowly lose it's effectiveness. Fresh glue works much better, so don't buy more than you can use in a reasonable amount of time. I usually shoot for 6 months, which is a small bottle, and only buy larger quantities when I know I will use it fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Be aware that CA has a shelf life. Once the package is opened, it will slowly lose it's effectiveness. Fresh glue works much better, so don't buy more than you can use in a reasonable amount of time. I usually shoot for 6 months, which is a small bottle, and only buy larger quantities when I know I will use it fast. Keep it in the fridge. I have the same bottle I bought 5 years ago. I use it to fletch arrows, so it only gets used a little bit getting ready for hunting season or the wife fixes something around the house. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CessnaPilotBarry Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 The fridge certainly can help, but I've still had it go bad. I think it has to do with how often you take it out and put it back, and how often the air gets exchanged in the bottle, since moisture accelerates the cure. I used to go through bottle after bottle of the stuff building giant scale r/c aircraft for others. Another tip is never store the glue near accelerator. Accelerator fumes can be enough to ruin the glue. I also found that buying from a source that sells lots of glue usually means fresher glue, with lasts longer once you get it home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 i tried some accelerator and i didnt like it got hard to fast for me i can always wait for it to dry on the lathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CessnaPilotBarry Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Duck... A softer accelerator is your damp breath. Slower and gentler than purpose-sold liquids or baking soda. Just breath on the glue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 i have heard that too much moisture can cause clouding so its not worth the hasle to save moments in my life plus it give me a chance to clean up all my chips that i just made. thanks for the tip though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbarton22 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 The wrong accelerator and glue combination can also cause clouding. Not all glues and accelerators are created equal. Also, are you using thin, medium, or thick CA? What method have you found that works best for you? Here, you will find as many answers as turners. I alternate layers of BLO and CA. The BLO acts a a mild accelerator and somehow extends the application time at the same time. I put a drop on a blue paper towel (shop towel) and rub the piece. Then a drop of thin CA on that same towel. The towel doesn't stick to the wood as quickly as if you did it bare. But then, I only need to wait 20 seconds or so to add the next layer. It seems to make a great finish and acts like "crutches" for the CA challenged, like myself. The BLO also helps pop the wood grain, which I like, so it serves 2 purposes for me. Make sure the CA is fully cured before doing your final buffing or whatnot. I usually let them sit for 24 hours...or 2 hours in a pinch. This is one of those things that you will just have to try and try again until you get something you are both confident with and like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 i grabed some medium didnt want it to take to long or too fast since i am just starting. i havent figure out a perfect method but i have to say i dont like ca finishes that much the fumes bother my eyes and sinuses too much. even in a huge room with doors open and fan going. im going to try somehting called B. O. shine juice that i learned from captneddie http://www.youtube.com/user/capneddie?feature=watch i like him he is like me that he realizes all the fun is figuring out a cheap alternative or make it yourself plus he seems to make some decent turnings. 1/3 denatured alch 1/3 linseed oil 1/3 shelack seems simple and easy to make and apply worried about shelack since they say its not good for stuff you handle alot so pens will probably stick with ca glue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbarton22 Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 Oh yeah...the fumes....BOOO. I usually am wearing my breather while sanding so I forget I am wearing it and just keep it on for the finish. Those fumes will get to you in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duckkisser Posted February 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 ok just tried the shine juice and i realy like it the smell is not offencive just like denatured alch and shellack. had the shellack dry rate, goes on smooth no streaks and it pops the wood with the linseed oil. i used it on a piece of wood that is like a small handle might use it for a tool handle but im going to see how being handled effcts it with the oils in my skin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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