dwacker Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopnhack Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Why not M. Wandel's website is a wealth of home grown machines, both his and readers. www.woodgears.ca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 In the time it took him to engineer and build that thing, he could have collected and scrapped enough aluminum cans on the side of the road to pay for a Domino. I think they covered this on a recent WTO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Rathje Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 In the time it took him to engineer and build that thing, he could have collected and scrapped enough aluminum cans on the side of the road to pay for a Domino. That's a lot of cans at a nickel a piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcrosley Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Some of this type of thing comes from the idea that companies are over charging for 'something I could build myself.' Some of it is genuinely seeing If you could build a tool that does the same thing. But a lot of it is driven by the fact that people don't value their own time. 'It only took me 4 years and $500 in materials to build this but I didn't pay $900 for it! Sometimes that makes sense for me. I'll do some work to build instead of buy. We all do. But this is just insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopnhack Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I don't think Russia has a recycling program that pays out.... The point is well taken though. As woodworkers we can and often do end up building things simply because we can. Is that necessarily insane? I don't think so, but it does fall outside conventional thinking and logical reasoning. It's somewhere along the lines of mountain climbers who brave dangers, because, "its there". Do woodworkers get high off of accomplishment? Probably. Are some of the things we build so customized that they are not available for sale? In some cases, yes. Do they serve us better than commercially made items? Maybe. The practical person says that you need to factor the cost of your time in a project. This is true when the project is done to earn a living. I don't think it necessarily so when done for pleasure. Woodworking is sometimes practical and sometimes art. Sometimes, its just farting around the shop letting the mind wander and expanding our work abilities with new techniques, gadgets, jigs and on occasion, shop built contrivances ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgewaterWW Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Here is part 2. He uses it, talks Russian, same great music and same great designer overalls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewoodwhisperer Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I would never fault anyone for building fairly complex machines themselves or in this case, creating a complex modification. For many, that's just all part of the fun. But for me, I just don't like doing it. If it holds a spinning bit or blade, I much prefer plastics and metal for long-term durability and accuracy. But I can totally understand why someone would want to build something like this or even their own multi-router, considering how expensive they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 But I can totally understand why someone would want to build something like this or even their own multi-router, considering how expensive they are. Thats how I stumbled on this video, looking for the parts to build a multi router. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolf Maxa Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 I found this guys videos looking for a homemade router lift. I have to give him credit for his produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Bienlein Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Here is my version of the diy domino. I did a few mods as I couldn't find the slides he used so I used 3/8" steel rod and bronze bushings. I also made mine out of phenolic. And the best part was I did it for less then $100! Here are a few pictures of some test mortises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Bienlein Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 In the time it took him to engineer and build that thing, he could have collected and scrapped enough aluminum cans on the side of the road to pay for a Domino. I think they covered this on a recent WTO. Have you collected and cashed in aluminum cans recently. I built mine in less time than it would take to gather enough cans to cash in to get a domino! Honestly I built it just because I can. I don't know if it will ever get any use other than the test mortises I did with it. I have a horizontal slot mortiser I built along with a pantorouter that has seen plenty of use from the moment I finished building them. The domino is just a one trick show, mortises thats it. I can go from doing mortises with the horizontal slot mortiser straight to doing box joints with it and the pantorouter is only limited by your ability to make templates for anything from mortise and tenon to box joints to shutters and dovetails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghmyn Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 The pantorouter is probably the most useful/repeatable multi joinery tool I have seen. I will eventually build one - but first I need to get my own router Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcrosley Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 I like the way that looks. You've obviously built tools before. How many hours did that take? Did you work from his design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Bienlein Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 I like the way that looks. You've obviously built tools before. How many hours did that take? Did you work from his design? I bought his plans and worked on it over the course of two weekends in between other projects. The only changes I made were to use 3/8" steel rod and bronze bushings for the slide mechanism and I used springs instead of a bungee cord to retract the router bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcrosley Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 I bought his plans and worked on it over the course of two weekends in between other projects. The only changes I made were to use 3/8" steel rod and bronze bushings for the slide mechanism and I used springs instead of a bungee cord to retract the router bit. That must be it! I was looking at yours and it felt less 'shop built' than the original and didn't think it was just due to the phenolic. I think losing the bungee cord makes it look more solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmbag72 Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Where do you get your phenolic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Bienlein Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Where do you get your phenolic? I got it for free. It was part of a cnc table that was broken. It was going to be thrown in the dumpster so I took it home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmbag72 Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 I got it for free. It was part of a cnc table that was broken. It was going to be thrown in the dumpster so I took it home. 003.JPG Must be nice to be lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CessnaPilotBarry Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 I still think I'd buy a Domino, but the video is cool as an engineering exercise! One thing to remember when shop-building tools or appliances, is that a ton of time can be saved if appearances don't matter. Shop-made stuff in magazines and video presentations often include many hours worth of finishing and prettying-up the item that has nothing to do with the functionality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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