Chrisjen30 Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 Ok here I apologize in advance for the picture, but here is my thousand words to try to describe my problem. I am building a wetbar in the basement. For the bartop I picked Red oak, with Brazilan Cherry running through it to give it a striped look. So it goes 5" red oak, 2 1/2" Cherry, 5 Inchs of Red Oak, 2 1/2 inchs of Cherry, 5 inchs of Red Oak for a total width of 20 inches. The problem I am running into is mitering the top (Left of Picture). I have (2) 22 degree miters in this top. At these miters I am runnning some extra cherry I have along the miter to break up the stripes. However I am having problems getting a straight miter on these tops. Any Ideas would help becuase I am running out of them. I tried planing the edges with a long sanding block and some sand paper but the cherry it seems does not sand at the same rate and only creates more of a problem. And the best way to join them together? Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Slack Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 To join these two meeting surfaces you could (if you have enough wood), clamp the two pieces and run a saw blade with a guide right at the joint where the two pieces meet. I have used this method based on a video from Matt Vanderlist on Matt's Basement Shop when he was explaining how to join two surfaces long grain to long grain. Another thing I would do would be to use dominos or a loose tennon since you are gluing end grain to end grain. Ok here I apologize in advance for the picture, but here is my thousand words to try to describe my problem. I am building a wetbar in the basement. For the bartop I picked Red oak, with Brazilan Cherry running through it to give it a striped look. So it goes 5" red oak, 2 1/2" Cherry, 5 Inchs of Red Oak, 2 1/2 inchs of Cherry, 5 inchs of Red Oak for a total width of 20 inches. The problem I am running into is mitering the top (Left of Picture). I have (2) 22 degree miters in this top. At these miters I am runnning some extra cherry I have along the miter to break up the stripes. However I am having problems getting a straight miter on these tops. Any Ideas would help becuase I am running out of them. I tried planing the edges with a long sanding block and some sand paper but the cherry it seems does not sand at the same rate and only creates more of a problem. And the best way to join them together? Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Z. Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 I had a similar issue with a teak kitchen counter I made. I decided the avoid the miter entirely, and went with a herringbone approach. I was a bit worried that I'd get gaps with movement, but the teak has been fairly dimensionally stable, and I haven't seen any problems in the last seven years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klousiajp@gmail.com Posted November 24, 2010 Report Share Posted November 24, 2010 What is the dimension of the cherry strip at the corner? Could you route a 1/4" rabbet on the front edge and the face of the two bar sections and then use a strip of cherry to cover the joint? I'm not sure how movement would impact that solution. Seems like a lot of moving pieces but it would be much easier to work with the small strips than the entire run of the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjen30 Posted November 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Bobby, Thanks for the advise. I can not believe that I did not think of that because I have used it in the past. Now I just have to finish up some lose ends like the bar rail, and I will be all set. THANKS AGAIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Slack Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Chris, glad to be of service we all help each other on this forum. Marc made it possible for all of us. Good luck and Happy Thanksgiving. Bobby, Thanks for the advise. I can not believe that I did not think of that because I have used it in the past. Now I just have to finish up some lose ends like the bar rail, and I will be all set. THANKS AGAIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Bennett Posted November 25, 2010 Report Share Posted November 25, 2010 Chris, glad to be of service we all help each other on this forum. Marc made it possible for all of us. Good luck and Happy Thanksgiving. Seems a bit late now to advise but I'm sure you must have the same kind of kitchen worktop jigs in the States as we have here in Europe. They normally have both 45 and 22 1/2 degree mitres in the same jig. They make this kind of joint very very easy and strong. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Slack Posted November 26, 2010 Report Share Posted November 26, 2010 I have a jig from Festool which will allow me to place it at any angle. So that is what I do use in situations like this one. Seems a bit late now to advise but I'm sure you must have the same kind of kitchen worktop jigs in the States as we have here in Europe. They normally have both 45 and 22 1/2 degree mitres in the same jig. They make this kind of joint very very easy and strong. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjen30 Posted January 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Thanks for all the helpfull advise, here is a picture of the near finsihed project. The joinery came out perfect, and I'll try to get a closer picture. I reinforced the joint with some countertop bolts. With the addition of the Bartop coating I do not believe that it will move. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhelart Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 A nice and creative solution, looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Slack Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Fantastic work! Shots on me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampy Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 I'd never leave the house if I had that in my basement. What are you going to have coming out of that pull tap? Guiness? Kilkenny? Harp? Smithwicks....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm .......beeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjen30 Posted February 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Currently, there is Dogfishead 60 minute IPA, and (my other hobby which is homebrewing) Stella Clone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampy Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....IPA...Keeping the British Navy afloat for centuries. A bunch of us in the neighbourhood brew up a few batches on a regular basis. We do a Scotish Stout that is nectar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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