what would you prefer...

[walidantar]

despite cost and money, if you can afford a premium - like veritas or any other - low-angle jack plane + skew rabbet plane or any dedicated plane for rabbeting, infront a jack rabbet plane what would you prefer to buy for your use

[Chestnut]

Skew rabbet. I use it for tenons and other stuff like that. For me it handles a lot nicer and doesn't blow out the back side of tenons.

[SawDustB]

59 minutes ago, Chestnut said:

Skew rabbet. I use it for tenons and other stuff like that. For me it handles a lot nicer and doesn't blow out the back side of tenons.

Does it make much difference over a regular rabbet plane? I've got an old Stanley #78 I use, and more recently a large shoulder plane for that kind of thing. I guess I'm not usually that concerned about the appearance of tenons, and just chamfer the corners.

The Jack rabbet seems like a strange choice to me. I find I usually want a smaller rabbet plane.

[derekcohen]

7 hours ago, walidantar said:

despite cost and money, if you can afford a premium - like veritas or any other - low-angle jack plane + skew rabbet plane or any dedicated plane for rabbeting, infront a jack rabbet plane what would you prefer to buy for your use

You do not need “premium” tools to do good work. You do need the appropriate tool, and to learn to use it. Choose from a Veritas Skew Rabbet Plane, Stanley #78, Record #078 or #0778, and a range of woodies, such as those made by ECE and HNT Gordon. All of these can be purchased new, but also may be found used. The Stanley #78 is probably the most common, and will do a good job. 

I would not recommend planes like the Veritas Jack Rabbet for rebates. It is too wide and too long for the typical rebate. Ditto avoid rabbet block planes as they are also too wide and lack vertical orientation. Most rebates tend to be between 1/4” - 3/4” wide.

Once practiced, you could make a rebate using a shoulder plane. A shoulder plane is a good accompaniment for a rebate plane. I will generally use one to fine tune the rebate.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Chestnut]

13 hours ago, SawDustB said:

14 hours ago, Chestnut said:

 

Does it make much difference over a regular rabbet plane? I've got an old Stanley #78 I use, and more recently a large shoulder plane for that kind of thing.

I think the skew block is far easier to manage than a shoulder plane as it's not tall so you're less likely to taper the tenon. It's less about appearance and more about not breaking off a large part of the tenon and it just seems to have a bit more control. This is for tenons and rabbets. For truing up shoulders it probably wouldn't work well but i have good luck with a chisel there.

[derekcohen]

I do not recommend planes for tenon cheeks. This includes skew block planes, rabbet block planes, shoulder planes and rebate planes. The only "plane" I do recommend is a large router plane. 

When paring a cheek, it is important that the shoulder is square the cheek (initially at least), and the cheek is parallel with the face of the stretcher. A router plane is great for keeping surfaces parallel. All other planes have difficulty maintain this (are at risk for over-cutting). What one really needs to do is pencil in the high spots, and then remove those. A chisel is easier to use to do this. A chisel is also easier to straighten up a shoulder. 

Shoulder planes are better tools for rebates, where that work with square. 

Regards from Perth

Derek