ChetlovesMer Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 If I may suggest, I think we may be getting a little more philosophical than what Mel was after. Is it possible, Mel just wanted to know if we are more likely to use our power jointer or our jointer plane? If we make rip cuts with a hand saw or a table saw? Or if perhaps we'd use either method depending on our mood, or the project, or the phases of the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 If I may suggest, I think we may be getting a little more philosophical than what Mel was after. Is it possible, Mel just wanted to know if we are more likely to use our power jointer or our jointer plane? If we make rip cuts with a hand saw or a table saw? Duh, no brainer. Jointer plane takes five minutes, jointer takes five seconds. Ripping a board with a handsaw? What's the matter with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Or if perhaps we'd use either method depending on our mood, or the project, or the phases of the moon. Sounding more like me, life is full of being dictated too. Just want to do it how I want to without being dogmatic. Good thread btw Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Duh, no brainer. Jointer plane takes five minutes, jointer takes five seconds. Ripping a board with a handsaw? What's the matter with you? Ahh, but you cant consider yourself a "real woodworker" if you do that. Whatever that means...........I know what it means BULLSHIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChetlovesMer Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Ripping a board with a handsaw? What's the matter with you? In truth if ripping down several 6 foot long pieces of hard maple with a hand saw is what it takes to be a "real woodworker"... not sure I want the moniker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Nor do I Chet, I'm happy to be an "unreal woodworker" sounds better actually 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I see hand tool use as second hobby. Its not for everyone but it certainly does not make you a better woodworker. The only time I "judge" for lack of better words and "judge" Im not sure is the right word, is when something is made on a cnc. Im not really sure what it is and it may not even be the machine itself but the use or copying of someone else's work with a cnc I don't see as woodworking. I could care less about straight lines like cabinet shops using cnc's thats just good business but guys making furniture especially that of someone else's design is not woodworking. Other than that its all wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Snob (joke) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghmyn Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I see hand tool use as second hobby. Its not for everyone but it certainly does not make you a better woodworker. The only time I "judge" for lack of better words and "judge" Im not sure is the right word, is when something is made on a cnc. Im not really sure what it is and it may not even be the machine itself but the use or copying of someone else's work with a cnc I don't see as woodworking. I could care less about straight lines like cabinet shops using cnc's thats just good business but guys making furniture especially that of someone else's design is not woodworking. Other than that its all wood. Could give the name of cadworker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flairwoodworks Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Duh, no brainer. Jointer plane takes five minutes, jointer takes five seconds. Ripping a board with a handsaw? What's the matter with you? Sometimes, it's quicker or easier to use a jointer plane than the jointer. The same goes for a rip saw. I like having the option (the skill and tools) to choose which method to use. And I like to think I have the knowledge to make the smart choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 If I may suggest, I think we may be getting a little more philosophical than what Mel was after. Is it possible, Mel just wanted to know if we are more likely to use our power jointer or our jointer plane? If we make rip cuts with a hand saw or a table saw? Or if perhaps we'd use either method depending on our mood, or the project, or the phases of the moon. I like all of this. Anytime people can think about what they are doing, or more importantly why those decisions are made, the better we all are. Duh, no brainer. Jointer plane takes five minutes, jointer takes five seconds. Ripping a board with a handsaw? What's the matter with you? I still won't get a powered jointer. I'll also never rip a board with a handsaw! But, I will continue tapering with my handplanes. Much better than that pesky table saw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChetlovesMer Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Nor do I Chet, I'm happy to be an "unreal woodworker" sounds better actually I personally like "Surreal Woodworker". Sometimes, it's quicker or easier to use a jointer plane than the jointer. The same goes for a rip saw. I like having the option (the skill and tools) to choose which method to use. And I like to think I have the knowledge to make the smart choice. I started a thread like this a while back. I think you're right. Sometimes, it is quicker and easier and less offensive to the neighbors... but it varies from case to case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I still won't get a powered jointer. I'll also never rip a board with a handsaw! But, I will continue tapering with my handplanes. Much better than that pesky table saw! Another good reason to get a powered jointer. Tapering is a piece of cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flairwoodworks Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Another good reason to get a powered jointer. Tapering is a piece of cake. Now I really need to go to the kitchen! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Another good reason to get a powered jointer. Tapering is a piece of cake. I'll race ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I got a LN #7 says PB takes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I got a LN #7 says PB takes it. I'll send you my address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I'll race ya! it takes about 15 seconds per side to cut tapers on a jointer if your slow and their accurate on all sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flairwoodworks Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 it takes about 15 seconds per side to cut tapers on a jointer if your slow and their accurate on all sides. It takes much less time on a table saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I think it's time to bust out the video cameras and get this party started. And I'm planning to join Chris' team...just have to get my tapering jig down off the shelf and I'm ready. I'll have a beer for you while you catch up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 I think it's time to bust out the video cameras and get this party started. And I'm planning to join Chris' team...just have to get my tapering jig down off the shelf and I'm ready. I'll have a beer for you while you catch up. We are doing all four sides right? Two are just to simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flairwoodworks Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 We are doing all four sides right? Two are just to simple. Why not do four sides tapered and twisted a la Table with a Twist? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Beautiful table Chris. BTW I'm waiting for the videos . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flairwoodworks Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Beautiful table Chris. BTW I'm waiting for the videos . My video editing software goes into conniptions trying to render the twisted legs. It tries to straighten them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Ain't no table saw done THEM legs. Nice table. Flawless grain matching on the top! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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