Eric. Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Posted February 28, 2014 Carving the tenons proved to be the trickiest bit...all that end grain. But patience and a steady hand gets you there... One more reason why I love the split-top...try doing THIS with a single-slab bench. Quote
Freddie Posted February 28, 2014 Report Posted February 28, 2014 Looking great Eric. Lets see some shop pics! You wouldn't want to get struck by lightning, would you...... Quote
Eric. Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Posted February 28, 2014 I told you, Freddie...my shop isn't done yet! I'll do a shop tour when it's complete. Besides, I'm sure you've seen every square inch of it in one pic or another. Quote
Freddie Posted February 28, 2014 Report Posted February 28, 2014 I'm feeling unsatisfied by your pics Don't tell me you're insecure about your shop! Quote
Eric. Posted February 28, 2014 Author Report Posted February 28, 2014 Not insecure, it's just incomplete. I don't feel like there's much to take pics of that people haven't already seen. Table saw here, miter station there, more tools, a workbench, some PVC... I have a house to sell that should be on the market in a month or two when the work is (finally) done. Good lord, that nightmare. Anyway, when it sells I'll be shoveling a bunch of cash into the shop in order to "complete" it. Obviously the tool buying never really ends, but there are a few more big items that I need, and some shop upgrades...A/C, insulation in the ceiling, more lights, etc. Also have a list of miscellaneous hand tools to buy, non-necessity type stuff...once I have those I can finally build my tool cabinet. At that point, I'll do a shop tour and deliver it to you directly. Quote
dwacker Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 Ive been eyeballing this one and am thinking about contributing to Marks family. How deep is the seat front to back? Quote
Eric. Posted March 4, 2014 Author Report Posted March 4, 2014 I think the plan calls for 10"... I'm waiting for the finish to cure so I can give it a quick polish, then I'll have pics. Quote
dwacker Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 I think the plan calls for 10"... I'm waiting for the finish to cure so I can give it a quick polish, then I'll have pics. Thank you. Do you see a need to add M&T 's or dowels to the tops of the legs into the seat for additional strength? Quote
Tom Crawford Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 IF I remember correctly from watching the videos there are two screws in each leg that are then covered with plugs. Yes, just checked the SketchUp drawing. Quote
Eric. Posted March 4, 2014 Author Report Posted March 4, 2014 Yep, two screws at each joint. I considered using just dowels in order to follow my own rule of no metal fasteners, but it seemed to make the most sense to use screws in this case since the M&T is open and basically unsupported laterally otherwise. And I'll just tell everyone else I used dowels anyway. I don't see the need to add any more reinforcement into the seat unless you plan to have an elephant stand on it. Quote
dwacker Posted March 4, 2014 Report Posted March 4, 2014 Yep, two screws at each joint. I considered using just dowels in order to follow my own rule of no metal fasteners, but it seemed to make the most sense to use screws in this case since the M&T is open and basically unsupported laterally otherwise. And I'll just tell everyone else I used dowels anyway. I don't see the need to add any more reinforcement into the seat unless you plan to have an elephant stand on it. My concern is actually kids that can't just sit. They seem to always be moving. The racking may loosen the screws and make the legs sloppy. I think these would be great for extra seating for my grand kids and look good enough that they dont have to be hidden in a closet. Quote
Eric. Posted March 4, 2014 Author Report Posted March 4, 2014 Just looking at the sketchup may lead you to think that, but once it's built there's little doubt about its integrity. Most of the glue surface involves some end grain, so I used epoxy for the glue-up, as did Marc in the Guild videos. The joint is substantial...there's a lot of meat there, even with the open M&T. I think the 3* splay will help prevent any inclination of lateral movement at the joint that it may have otherwise had, giving it a stable, "squat" form. With the addition of 3" screws, I have very little concern about racking over the duration of its life unless it's abused...which is true for any build. May I suggest you try beating your grandkids with a rubber hose if they don't want to sit like normal people? A more realistic suggestion may be, if these are specifically for the kids, to make them a bit shorter, and shrink the seat accordingly with the legs. This will give it an even beefier stance. The dimensions are definitely for adults...it's a bit tall for kids to sit in I think, without their legs dangling off the ground. Quote
G S Haydon Posted March 6, 2014 Report Posted March 6, 2014 Very nice Eric, clever idea with the router table. Quote
Popular Post Eric. Posted March 6, 2014 Author Popular Post Report Posted March 6, 2014 Since I take God-awful fauxtoes, I fully intended to take this one to a studio and have some pro shots taken. But apparently I'm not gonna have the time for that in the next few days, so screw it, enjoy these terrible pics and I'll enjoy the 75 bucks I'll be saving. 3 Quote
Guest Posted March 6, 2014 Report Posted March 6, 2014 My concern is actually kids that can't just sit. They seem to always be moving. The racking may loosen the screws and make the legs sloppy. I think these would be great for extra seating for my grand kids and look good enough that they dont have to be hidden in a closet. Eric - looks amazing, nice job. In terms of strength, a stretcher somehwere might help and I think could be a tastefully incorporated as a nice design element as well. My kids are freaking animals so I would need to do something like that. You see a stool. They see a bomb shelter, a helmet, a shield, and a trapoline all wrapped up into one pretty wooden package. Quote
Eric. Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Posted March 6, 2014 A stretcher is certainly possible, but it's Marc's design and I don't like tampering with genius. I do personally think the joinery is adequate for "normal" use. Any piece can be over-engineered and overbuilt to withstand worst case scenarios...but more often than not at the cost of aesthetics. I think a stretcher would take away from this particular piece visually. Maybe not. But it looks good to me as it is so that's that. Like I told Don...if I catch my kids using this thing as a bomb shelter, helmet, shield or trampoline, I will simply beat them with a rubber hose. Kidding aside, I tend to keep certain pieces out of their path of destruction, and for the most part, they understand the rules and respect them...aside from putting sticky crap on EVERYTHING...which is annoying, but not the end of the world. Quote
..Kev Posted March 6, 2014 Report Posted March 6, 2014 Nicely done Eric! The pics weren't bad either! Quote
pghmyn Posted March 6, 2014 Report Posted March 6, 2014 If I was forced to add extra reinforcement to the piece, I think I would add some fancy asian style metal corner brackets under the seat. Nothing too in your face, but elegant. I think small black sculpted metal corner brackets on your particular piece would look great. Just my opinion, though. Quote
Freddie Posted March 6, 2014 Report Posted March 6, 2014 I dont know how anyone can be adding personal critiques on this thread, eric nailed it! I find nothing to nitpick on design or excecution, bravo sir! Quote
G S Haydon Posted March 6, 2014 Report Posted March 6, 2014 Sticky crap on everything, glad I'm not alone there. Clearing up after the monsters is a real soul destroyer. It makes me understand how Sisyphus felt. Quote
Eric. Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Posted March 6, 2014 I dont know how anyone can be adding personal critiques on this thread, eric nailed it! I find nothing to notpick on design or excecution, bravo sir! Yeah! If y'all got a problem with the design I suggest you dial 1-800-whisper-this and speak to the proper authority on the matter. Thanks for the kind words, boys. Most of you anyway. LOL Quote
Eric. Posted March 6, 2014 Author Report Posted March 6, 2014 It makes me understand how Sisyphus felt. There are days I just wish I was rolling that stone up and down that mountain. 1 Quote
pghmyn Posted March 6, 2014 Report Posted March 6, 2014 I dont know how anyone can be adding personal critiques on this thread, eric nailed it! I find nothing to notpick on design or excecution, bravo sir! Critique, no. Adding a possible idea onto a situation that PB is trying to solve, yes. Quote
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