Freddie Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 When they panned across the shop and i saw the new drum sander in the back, i thought of you immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I wish the boss would check the forum more often...he coulda saved me a bunch of trouble...and about 650 bucks. Glad I ordered from Amazon though...hassle-free returns! I just got the "your item has shipped" email yesterday, so I guess I still have a little time to make it truly hassle-free. Sorry Amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 ==>significant loss in HP 1.75HP on a 25" drum? Either that's a misprint or the feed rate is about an inch/hour... All kidding aside, that thing isn't going to do much for his workflow... I would think twice about canceling your order and getting something so obviously under-powered... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Yeah I'm super-confused now. The 1.75 HP is what's shown on the Supermax site's spec sheet for the 25/50... http://www.supermaxtools.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/25-50DW_7.11.13.pdf What's even more odd is that the 19/38 shows the same 1.75 HP, but states that the motor IS convertible to 220, but the motor for the 25/50 is NOT. WTF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 ==>WTF? It's just value-engineering to hit a market price-point while maintaining a 60% GM... Happens all the time... That's why the devils always in the details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 They can't give them the power they really need, put a 5hp motor on it and run it at reasonable conveyer speed and it would rip the arm off of it and smoke the DC drive.The drum speed is way to fast for the slow conveyer feed rate. Just like a router they rely on speed rather than actual power. Drums running at that speed need a high torque gear reduction motor / gear box to drive the conveyer at high enough speeds to match the drum speed. Although these types of sanders sell like hot cakes they dont perform anywhere near like a real drum sander. The wood master as far as Im aware is the only budget sander that is anywhere near close. Also keep in mind these are just bench top sanders stuck on a pretty stand they are not stationary machines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'm all stressed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'm all stressed out. it is 5:00 somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I hate that feeling eric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'm all stressed out. Then we wont even talk about the advantages of the reversible conveyer drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I also missed the session last night. UGH! Will have to wait for it to be available to checkout the new sander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 ==>They can't give them the power they really need, put a 5hp motor on it and run it at reasonable conveyer speed and it would rip the arm off of it and smoke the DC drive.The drum speed is way to fast for the slow conveyer feed rate. Just like a router they rely on speed rather than actual power. Drums running at that speed need a high torque gear reduction motor / gear box to drive the conveyer at high enough speeds to match the drum speed. Good point... didn't think that through... My experience is wide-belt, doesn't always translate... When you see 25" capacity, you expect to see 10HP... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Good point... didn't think that through... My experience is wide-belt, doesn't always translate... When you see 25" capacity, you expect to see 10HP... On a good 25" WB you should see closer to 15 to 20 HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 ==>^^^ Good point, my Timesavers was 10 and suffered from a slow feed rate. Supposed like most thing in tools, you get what you pay for... Replaced with a PM that was 15 and ran quit a bit more smoothly, but it was a few $$ more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick2cd Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 Sorry Eric, I certainly did not mean to throw a huge monkey wrench into your gear box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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