Popular Post GlennL Posted April 17, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 Was looking at the Oneida website when I bought the Super Dust Deputy and saw they have a "Bin Fill Indicator" alarm system. The sensor they use is a Banner Industries unit. I decided to do a little digging and found a Banner sensor that looks like what they are using. I search Amazon and the cheapest I could find it was $69. Searched eBay, and found the unit for $14 shipping from China. It was a new unit, and came in the original Banner packaging. The unit is the NPN one which means the load control lines are "Negative", which means you supply +12V to your loads, and the sensor supplies the neg side. The Banner sensor doesn't supply enough current to drive the siren, so I ordered a relay board of Amazon. I also ordered a 12V supply, enclosure, switch, green LED, and 4 pin connectors. I'll list all the links below. The only problem with the 4 pin connectors was, there is the usual screw that holds the insert in place, but they "staked" the other side which was preventing me from pulling the insert out to solder the wires to. I ended up using a small drill bit to drill out the stake. Other than that it was a pretty straight forward build. I wanted a power switch so it can be shut off once the alarm is trigger...the siren is pretty loud! The green LED will be on when the drum fill level is below the trip level set for the sensor, indicating the system is armed. The green LED will turn off and the siren will sound when the system is tripped. There is also a small green LED on the sensor itself to identify the sensor is powered up. I used my hand to adjusted the sensor so it will trip around 6-8" below the sensor. Right now the drum is filled about 12" below the top, so once the system is tripped, I'll measure the actual trip point. I'm not sure how "level" the dust rises in barrel, so we'll see how it looks once it trips. Adding up all the items I had to purchase, it cost me $75. That's half the price of the Oneida unit, and has more features. I had a good assortment of different color wires from a Jeep project a few years ago, so I carried over the color scheme of the Banner wires to the internal connector for it. Just made it easier to connect up in the box. I included a few pictures of the assembly, and schematics for how I connected everything up. Here's the links to all the items... Banner Sensor... https://www.ebay.com/itm/304665854269?hash=item46ef80013d:g:JroAAOSwZ9tjhB7u&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA8CPLctJrHTi7Ok8XC0xVA%2Bu8E8EnxR0BgCUXWQFgenCoL7sJ3Mrgigvnyp0Y62bSOQDHsszQ1kxi7PSQ3n1rSPAmqDCkmmSl2lxVluNfVzGCCbgiHAkkZHArV7gn7RSIxddRzSHrqiuKpEPMuwTS16abAprehXwn0wW3KQIzfWBr7QKkre8gjaajsxYy7XsSHYz4HDLRUs%2BusQwD2qEVvtFiCYqNp4ruBD2e6XVHGbB1XM%2F8YQSj50FuaU6FwgZvd0Kdk%2FGpo0MJijUk6ZbxyEtUB3UIKBomH1T7LLDXkCvMrYfwc6Ok9L3NcgFkOitRLg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR-b70JjhYQ Banner Website Sensor... https://www.bannerengineering.com/us/en/products/part.61651.html Relay Board... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LW15F42?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details On/Off Switch... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SQV871L?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details Enclosure... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08N1DD5WJ?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details Mic Connectors... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PQF2RDL?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details Green LED... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HU06OYY?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details 12V Power Adapter... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JHKPD9R?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted April 18, 2023 Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 Nicely done! We use various Banner (and other brands) of sensors like that at work. I'm curious to see how consistent it is once the chips are swirling close to the top, although with the cyclone, they shouldn't be swirling all that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennL Posted April 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 8:25 PM, wtnhighlander said: I'm curious to see how consistent it is once the chips are swirling close to the top, although with the cyclone, they shouldn't be swirling all that much. I'm about 12" down now...I'll have to throw some wood through the planer and see how sensitive it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted April 18, 2023 Report Share Posted April 18, 2023 Nice. I have Oneida's warning system, but the only thing it's good for is giving a false sense that the bin is empty when in fact it's chock full. I scored a used vibrating rod sensor that I've done some testing with and I think it will work well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GlennL Posted April 20, 2023 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 8:25 PM, wtnhighlander said: Nicely done! We use various Banner (and other brands) of sensors like that at work. I'm curious to see how consistent it is once the chips are swirling close to the top, although with the cyclone, they shouldn't be swirling all that much. Grabbed a piece of poplar and made a number of passes to trip the alarm. The chip level was about 10" inches down from the sensor when I started. Got a little too aggressive on one pass! No false triggers as it got near the trip point, couple flashes and then a steady alarm. The barrel filled to a good level to move and empty...I'm calling this one DONE!! LOL Here's a quick video...Alarm Triggered 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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