oldman_pottering Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 I would like to make a simple box for this oil stone I resawed this timber quite a while ago and it now has a decent warp in it It is much larger than I need, photos shown for size , do I need to run it through the thicknesser or can I just use it as is? Can someone point me in the right direction to making a box ? I Think I'd like to mitre the corners but have no idea about inserting a base ( or top for that matter) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William R Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 There are so many ways of making a box. I would think about a finger joint (box joint) box with dados 6mm from the top and bottom on the inside and make floating top/ bottom panels then cut the top from the box put hinges and some sort of finish. check out wood magazine.com box plans or a google search wooden box plans pdf you’ll find many ideas, videos on how to make boxes. Good luck let us know what you come up with. as far as the wood I think I would use it as is. Cutting your parts out of that material. You’ll loose most of the warping just by having it in smaller pieces. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 You might try this style box by our forum benefactor: Or this variation, that seems a bit more common: Adjust the dimensions to fit your stone. Cutting parts from that wider stock will reduce the apparent warp. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William R Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 6 minutes ago, wtnhighlander said: You might try this style box by our forum benefactor: Or this variation, that seems a bit more common: Adjust the dimensions to fit your stone. Cutting parts from that wider stock will reduce the apparent warp. Great idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman_pottering Posted January 7 Author Report Share Posted January 7 On 1/8/2024 at 1:02 AM, William R said: There are so many ways of making a box. I would think about a finger joint (box joint) box with dados 6mm from the top and bottom on the inside and make floating top/ bottom panels then cut the top from the box put hinges and some sort of finish. check out wood magazine.com box plans or a google search wooden box plans pdf you’ll find many ideas, videos on how to make boxes. Good luck let us know what you come up with. as far as the wood I think I would use it as is. Cutting your parts out of that material. You’ll loose most of the warping just by having it in smaller pieces. thank you, I was hoping this would be the case, would you recommend cutting the sides from the middle piece of the stock ( flattest part) ? On 1/8/2024 at 1:06 AM, wtnhighlander said: You might try this style box by our forum benefactor: Or this variation, that seems a bit more common: Adjust the dimensions to fit your stone. Cutting parts from that wider stock will reduce the apparent warp. thanks I'll check those out, I have watched a lot of his videos but didn't know he was associated with this forum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 On 1/7/2024 at 1:57 PM, oldman_pottering said: thanks I'll check those out, I have watched a lot of his videos but didn't know he was associated with this forum As I understand things, this forum was created by Marc to support a community that grew up around a podcast he has been doing with some colleagues for the last decade plus: https://woodtalkshow.com/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William R Posted January 8 Report Share Posted January 8 I’m m not sure exactly how I’d go about cutting up the stock for making the sides. I don’t have it in hand it’s hard to work from a photo. I think I would look at what I’m making and how I want the wood grain to work. By looking at the photo of your stock I’m sure you can pull everything together with clamps. (Kinda massage the wood to your will.) I don’t know. Your the artist here make art. Good luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oldman_pottering Posted January 15 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted January 15 UPDATE : I finally got around to making something, obviously not as good as I would like. I used the table saw only, my rabbets didn't work as well as I would have liked partially due to the style of blade ( I only have a combination blade at the moment and in all honesty it could do with a clean / sharpen. I used a design I saw on YT which leaves the lid and the base slightly proud. I made this to hold a sharpening stone but somehow I screwed up the measurements and the box is 1/4" to short and the lid wobbles when in place Learning is learning though 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 @oldman_pottering, I'd say you did rather well! That's a nice looking box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 I think it looks pretty cool. Now, run that sharpening stone thru the tablesaw and shorten it 1/2”, making it fit the box and sharpening the blade in one pass! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman_pottering Posted January 16 Author Report Share Posted January 16 On 1/16/2024 at 11:16 AM, wtnhighlander said: @oldman_pottering, I'd say you did rather well! That's a nice looking box. Thanks mate, on closer inspection I got quite a bit of tear out ( not sure if it's the hardwood or my blade or a combo ) On 1/16/2024 at 11:22 AM, Coop said: I think it looks pretty cool. Now, run that sharpening stone thru the tablesaw and shorten it 1/2”, making it fit the box and sharpening the blade in one pass! Thanks mate, running the stone through the saw blade to kill 2 birds with 1 stone ( yes....that's a pun) is genius idea 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 That looks great. There may be some issues that you have mentioned but that's no big deal. Most people won't see them. I'm always jealous of the lumber that you aussies have access to. I'd get the blade sharpened and cleaned a good sharp blade helps a lot with tear out. Cleaning can have a larger impact than you may think start there. For cleaning i use a mild household cleaner and warm-hot water. The wood pitch melts off with a swipe of a nylon brush or 2. Additionally a zero clearance insert will help a lot. Any time i make a critical cut that is at risk for tear out i make sure the fence and plate are my zero clearance ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman_pottering Posted January 16 Author Report Share Posted January 16 On 1/17/2024 at 1:15 AM, Chestnut said: That looks great. There may be some issues that you have mentioned but that's no big deal. Most people won't see them. I'm always jealous of the lumber that you aussies have access to. thanks mate, funny about the timber..............I like the fact that you guys get so much contrasting wood, I'm always reading about oak,cherry and walnut. I need to research more here and I'm thinking that purchasing some pre milled stuff might go a long way to helping me learn, might let me get straight into the project without mucking around with milling. I'd get the blade sharpened and cleaned a good sharp blade helps a lot with tear out. Cleaning can have a larger impact than you may think start there. For cleaning i use a mild household cleaner and warm-hot water. The wood pitch melts off with a swipe of a nylon brush or 2. Additionally a zero clearance insert will help a lot. Any time i make a critical cut that is at risk for tear out i make sure the fence and plate are my zero clearance ones. I have seen somewhere around the internets people speaking of the importance of keeping the blade clean ( next clean this blade gets will be the first ) I am using a zero clearance plate thanks for your help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William R Posted January 16 Report Share Posted January 16 That’s a great looking project. Nice job. did you ever mention the species you wood that is? I really like the grain in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman_pottering Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 On 1/17/2024 at 9:44 AM, William R said: That’s a great looking project. Nice job. did you ever mention the species you wood that is? I really like the grain in it. thanks mate, I *think* its Blackbutt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 17 Report Share Posted January 17 @oldman_pottering, see if you can find the book by Doug Stowe, “Basic Box Making”. I still refer back to it at times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman_pottering Posted January 17 Author Report Share Posted January 17 On 1/17/2024 at 1:31 PM, Coop said: @oldman_pottering, see if you can find the book by Doug Stowe, “Basic Box Making”. I still refer back to it at times. thanks Coop, I just found it in PDF form but I'll search for the hardcover 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldman_pottering Posted January 18 Author Report Share Posted January 18 On 1/17/2024 at 1:31 PM, Coop said: @oldman_pottering, see if you can find the book by Doug Stowe, “Basic Box Making”. I still refer back to it at times. Just ordered it from Amazon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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