adambaum Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 All, I currently have a Jet DC600 or DC650. Not sure of the model #, but I can tell you it's the small one. It has the standard bag that came with it and for lack of a better description, it doesn't suck enough. It can't deal with my planer and cabinet saw, among other issues. Also has issues grabbing the dust when I sand on a lathe (using a hood). SO I figure it's time to upgrade. My requirements are:Run on 220VDisposable bags - I hate having to empty my DC..seems like I get more on me than what goes in the trash.Not too tall - I work in my garageCan be mobile - I work in my garage so it will be rolled aroundReasonable dimensions - again, I work in a garage and it will be mobileWill not be ducted - I don't mind moving a hose from tool to tool.Can handle a planar and cabinet saw$1200 or less, includes tax and shipping to Arizona although I am willing to go a bit higher if it means a significant bump in quality and capability. Recommendations? I see 2HP Grizzlys for under $500 so I know I should be able to find a good quality unit to fit my needs. Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reforzar Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 Bam! Comes with a remote and you could easily line the drum with a bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicks82 Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 ref i am getting an error when clicking on the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onboard Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 Bam! Comes with a remote and you could easily line the drum with a bag. Being mobile, I like the fact that the sound level is only 74db. Almost hard to believe. You can check one review here. It was posted about 10 months ago. The same guy did a follow up review here about 8 months ago. I see Laguna also makes a 3HP version of this mobile DC as well. It's quite large. One guy on the Rockler website gave the 2HP unit a 1 star rating for instructions (click on the Review tab), but didn't return to comment on how the machine performed for him. I have to believe there must be a lower cost alternative to these Laguna DC's. Maybe not as quiet, but with hearing protection perhaps not an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambaum Posted October 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 I've looked at the Laguna online today. Also checked out JDS, Grizzly, Jet, and Oneida. I don't necessarily need a cyclone given that I am a weekend woodworker (at best). We aren't talking heavy duty usage, but I do expect it to collect the bulk of the dust/chips and meet my listed requirements. Are cyclone units that much better at dust collection? Adam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 If you want bang for your buck, and mobile, I would go for this... http://www.pennstateind.com/store/TEMP2PCX.html I have the 2.5HP Tempest Cyclone and love it. Mine is a stationary unit. Works very well. PSI customer service is pretty good too. You could also make this unit stationary at some point as well. Would do a very good job. And yes, cyclones do a much better job of dust collection. This one also comes with a .5 micron filter. Good stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 I have to admit the Laguna's are very nice dust collectors. The overall build quality I'd say is twice as good as a comparable grizzly. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adambaum Posted November 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 Got my latest issue of FW in the mail yesterday. One of the articles is on dust collection. The author makes a good case for going with a cyclone. Besides more airflow, the biggest reason is the filter. Many of the cyclones come with a HEPA or MERV 15 (or higher) rated filters. That's .5 micron or better. Standard filter on a single stage canister goes to about 2 micron. Grizzly and Oneida are going to manufacture upgraded canister filters though. Wonder what one of the upgraded canister filters on a Powermatic DC would be like? Cost of the two ($849 for DC and $300 for aftermarket filter) puts me nearly into an Oneida cyclone. Grizzly is under $1K already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 DOnt forget about that PSI portable cyclone. It come with .5 micron filters. Also under a $900. I think that might fall into the best bang for you buck category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechwood Chip Posted November 3, 2011 Report Share Posted November 3, 2011 It's not just a matter of upgrading the filter. There's a reason that the non-cyclones come with "looser" filters. If you put a HEPA filter on a regular dust collector it will clog very quickly. The cyclone acts as a pre-filter to protect the HEPA filter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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