PlayasTeo Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 Hi guys.....I made some changes to the design , that I would like to share with you , so far I put the case together with 9 fingers on each corner , and instead of making grooves for the bottom, I made it a frame and panel so that I gain some depth , and it will attach to the front , back and sides with screws through the bottom. I assamble the case with screws but no glue , would like your opinion on this. I am attaching some pictures 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slachammer Posted August 9, 2013 Report Share Posted August 9, 2013 I like the extra depth idea. I was thinking it was gonna be shallow inside chest. Can you show a better picture of the mitered deck? did you rabbet the deck to accept the plywood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayasTeo Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Sure thing .....as soon as I get back in the shop tonight I.ll take pictures......but I can tell you it is just like a frame and panel door with tongue on the panel and groove in the rails and stiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spunjin Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 I like that idea because I am making a smaller version for my daughter. Since the case is only going to be 11.5" tall, I would lose 1.5" or so. That's over 10% of the chests depth. I will edge glue the stock to the plywood for mine. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Olsen Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 I did the same during the week, my panels are not cut yet but my template look like this. I have no idea for the bottom yet, I didn't realise the depth was small until the video comments post. I think rabbet around the mittered deck and sit the plywood on it would be a good idea. Will gain 1" 1/4 or something, not sure I would go al the way to the bottom anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayasTeo Posted August 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Here is the picture of the parts for the frame and panel bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewoodwhisperer Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 Someone else mentioned a very simple alternative where you simply make the deck and the bottom piece out of one piece of plywood. The plywood would be edge-banded to give the appearance of a mitered frame. And the case would simply sit on top of this panel. Screws up through the panel and into the case would secure it in place. This would gain you about 2" of interior depth. We are considering creating a model showing this as a quick and easy alternative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdbuehler Posted August 10, 2013 Report Share Posted August 10, 2013 We are considering creating a model showing this as a quick and easy alternative. PLEASE do. Not totally following what you're describing. What I was trying to do in Sketchup, but struggling with, was to simply increase the height of the case assembly. Adding about 3 inches total by adding 1 each at each finger 'zone' if you will. Will also need to re-think plug placement. I was also thinking about doubling the height of the lid to make stronger for sitting; so all this additional height to the overall assembly is good from a sitting perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayasTeo Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 I think that I will make a frame about two inches in height out of three quarter of an inch secondary wood sandwiched between the plywood bottom and the mitered deck , where the case will sit on , that will give me a two and three quarter inches of extra depth in addition to the width of the panels , that in my case will be eighteen and a half inches total depth , and will provide me with a solid area to attach the base to.....and of course omit the frame and panel idea that I mention earlier.what are your thoughts on this? I will post pictures probably tonight after I finish it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayasTeo Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 On second thought I will not use secondary wood , but mahogany , also I will make the base about one eight od an inch less in heigth than this assembly , so the weight of the case will be borne by the bottom an not the base giving the ilussion that the chest is floating of the ground and if I make it with straps a la Darrel peart it will appear as if it was being hoisted...any way I lost a little sleep last night so I wanted to write it down before I forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayasTeo Posted August 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2013 I might add that there will be some wood protruding in the inside of the case in waist fashion, by the width of the deck , which I may reduce , about half inch will be exposed ,that should not look bad at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Olsen Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 After some though, I think i will rabbet the bottom of the base and rabbet a part of the deck, so the plywood slide under the case for the clean look and sit on the deck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayasTeo Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 That's a good idea .....you'l gain about 1 and 1/2 inches of depth and you would have not change the exterior design that you planned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayasTeo Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Here is how we use our blanket chest every morning.....don't mind having one in every bedroom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slachammer Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Someone else mentioned a very simple alternative where you simply make the deck and the bottom piece out of one piece of plywood. The plywood would be edge-banded to give the appearance of a mitered frame. And the case would simply sit on top of this panel. Screws up through the panel and into the case would secure it in place. This would gain you about 2" of interior depth. We are considering creating a model showing this as a quick and easy alternative. Will you still be showing this method? I don't know about edge banding? you cut thin pieces and glue on? I watched the current video. and not sure if I should assemble the deck , or put rabbet joints in before glue up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewoodwhisperer Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 No, I won't be demonstrating the alternative base option. It would be a simplified version of the build and would actually require less work. Once you have the SketchUp drawing of this alternative version, it should be pretty self-explanatory. And of course you have me and the rest of the forum here to help out if you get stuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slachammer Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I think the rabbet in the mitered deck sounds pretty easy. I wonder about deck attachment to the case, and then the strength the attachment and overall bottom strength Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdenap Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 to Carl/PlayasTeo: would either or both of you mind posting what you decided on for finger dimensions and manel sizes? I'm considering the same and struggling with asthetics of finger size before I commit. thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Olsen Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 My fingers are shy 44m (like 43.75) for 394mm (15 1/2) im not going to be much help there, Im not good with fraction. panel sizes are the same as in the plan, (Actually all my chest is like 1/4 short on length i messed up somewhere it was not square enough) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blizzard Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 So here's a n00b question - I'm planning on changing the original design somewhat too (rabbeting the case inside bottoms for my base) - my question is - how deep to make the rabbets? Obviously, they will be rabbeted far enough that the plywood fits flush with the bottom, but for strength - would any of you recommend screwing the plywood base up into the sides/front/back, or just gluing it in place? Also - I'm thinking of opening a beautiful dark, richly colored mahogany blanket chest and having a light colored plywood bottom (maple? Birch?) to brighten the inside somewhat. Probably redundant since it will be filled usually with blankets or whatever, but I think it would look nice and perhaps even cleaner to have a light colored interior base. Any thoughts? There was talk of sketchup plans being made for a rabbeted bottom - did these ever materialize? I couldn't find them from anywhere I looked... Probably user error! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMarshall Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 There was talk of sketchup plans being made for a rabbeted bottom - did these ever materialize? I couldn't find them from anywhere I looked... Probably user error! Blizz, we updated the main plans to include an alternate version. This version has the bottom panel combined with the deck, and the original bottom was eliminated. There are no rabbets though. The deck/bottom is still attached with cleats like the version Marc is building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayasTeo Posted September 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Hi tdnap....I used a pair of dividers ,that way you do not have to bother with a tape measure , this would be the same as when you mark for dovetails...just decide how many spaces you need to come up with the amount of fingers you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted September 26, 2013 Report Share Posted September 26, 2013 PlayasTeoI am new to the forum and to The Guild as well. I am in the process of building the blanket chest. I saw somewhere yesterday, here I think, of a finished chest and think they were your pictures but can't find them again. I haven't figured out yet how to navigate around here. I'm not much w/ computers! Anyway, the pics I saw were of a chest that used the alternate panel/frame method and they showed the interior of the case and there were exposed cleats (for lack of a better word) around the inside bottom of the case. Were these your pics, as I have a question about the cleats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayasTeo Posted October 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2013 Yes , the cleats that you see are the inside edges of the deck....doing in it this way I ended up with exactly the same design as the original Darrel peart blanket chest , but ended up with a lot more inside depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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