jussi Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 This is a interesting new tool by Festool. Released in October in US. Basically a ROS with base that holds it 90 degrees to the surface. But can be adjusted to other angles. As a hobbyist I don't think I could justify the $564 price tag but could see how a pro might benefit from it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 What is the point of a battery powered tool when you hook up the Vac hose that has a plug right there? Also i feel like a #4 from Veritas or Lie Nielsen would do a better job faster, maybe not on these epoxy monstrosities but with a 2" wide edge balancing a sander isn't that difficult. 2 hours ago, jussi said: As a hobbyist I don't think I could justify the $564 price tag but could see how a pro might benefit from it. You can buy it as an attachment for a sander you already have... https://www.festoolproducts.com/festool-205316-edge-sanding-guide-for-ets-etsc-125-sanders.html $99 isn't awful, makes the sander and guide $200 total if you bought one of the Pro5 ltd sanders for $100 when they came out. Trouble is the ETS 125 & pro5 sanders aren't really heavy removal sanders and don't work well with grits lower than 150. It'd be better if they made this for the ETS EC line of sanders imo. Still a lot of overhead for a 1 trick pony, that's hard to justify as a pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 40 minutes ago, Chestnut said: epoxy monstrosities Haha! my sentiments exactly. A local shop built a huge conference room table out of 2 beautiful book matched live edge slabs. There was a huge amount of epoxy filling the gaps & edges. It was for a local Cadillac dealership. I was in there & had a look at it. After about a year it already looked like s***t. Just enough minor wear to make the epoxy look really crappy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jussi Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Chestnut said: What is the point of a battery powered tool when you hook up the Vac hose that has a plug right there? Also i feel like a #4 from Veritas or Lie Nielsen would do a better job faster, maybe not on these epoxy monstrosities but with a 2" wide edge balancing a sander isn't that difficult. You can buy it as an attachment for a sander you already have... https://www.festoolproducts.com/festool-205316-edge-sanding-guide-for-ets-etsc-125-sanders.html Didn't know they sold the attachment separately. Makes sense though. Unfortunately for me I switched over to a Mirka Deros a while back. I bought the pro 5 just because the deal was too good to pass up but quickly sold it after realizing how weak and slow it was. I think the benefit of the battery powered sander is in it's use with a bag. Don't have one but when I tried out the demo the dust collection was still pretty good. Also I think a sander would be better than a plane when working on end grain or live edge surfaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 minute ago, jussi said: I bought the pro 5 just because the deal was too good to pass up but quickly sold it after realizing how weak and slow it was. This was a big mistake of festool. The Pro5 sander was a finish sander and really should be used to sand 220 grit and higher. I've used it with 150 & 180 grit on bare wood but it's not the ideal use case. It has a nice small stroke and excels at sanding finishes (poly. shellac, lacquor) but doesn't have the power for raw stock sanding. It also works great for plywood sanding as the small stroke and low power doesn't blast through thin veneers. 3 minutes ago, jussi said: Also I think a sander would be better than a plane when working on end grain or live edge surfaces. I'm going to have to disagree here on the end grain. I use my planes over sanders on end grain because sanders are so SLOW. It takes for ever to remove burn marks or other saw marks where a good sharp plan takes 4 swipes. I don't even use low angle for this, my bevel down smoother works perfectly. I feel like live edge doesn't need a guide as the live edge is going to be highly variable not sure what you meant there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jar944 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 I Don't see the point of the cordless, but I might pick up the attachment for my ets ec 150. Nothing worse than rounding over the edge on a inset door with a tight reveal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 That sander attachment will go down as one of those poor purchase decisions in time..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted August 28, 2020 Report Share Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/25/2020 at 4:51 PM, Jar944 said: I Don't see the point of the cordless, but I might pick up the attachment for my ets ec 150. Nothing worse than rounding over the edge on a inset door with a tight reveal. That's why professional use an edge sander...you want to achieve straight line? Edge sander... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jar944 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 14 hours ago, BillyJack said: That's why professional use an edge sander...you want to achieve straight line? Edge sander... Not going to disagree there a edge sander is a lot better on door edge cleanup than a DA Though I size doors on a jointer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 You can only get then to a certain point. You take a risk of blow out from a jointer and then not all openings are square and need to be sanded to fit perfectly... A edge sander better than a DA? Yes Better than a jointer ?yes again.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 Ever worked in a cabinet or commercial shop? Edge sander used a lot more than a jointer with door making. Sands and sizes doors, fits to inset openings, sands cathedral doors,etc. Much more value than a joojter.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jar944 Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 58 minutes ago, BillyJack said: You can only get then to a certain point. You take a risk of blow out from a jointer and then not all openings are square and need to be sanded to fit perfectly... A edge sander better than a DA? Yes Better than a jointer ?yes again.. You can't blowout the endgrain if you flip the door so you are always cutting towards the rail when going across the end grain like i did in the video. Yes the edge sander is certainly more common at fitting inset doors. Not necessarily more useful overall if you are starting from rough lumber though. I didn't invent fitting doors on a jointer either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted August 29, 2020 Report Share Posted August 29, 2020 I can only tell you you how it is done. You can do it how you like.... You don't work for me, I'm not your foreman nor are you costing me any money, carry on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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