AcornHouse Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 I got the latest Rockler catalog, and noticed that they have a square cutting chisel for cutting square holes for A&C/G&G plugs. Basically a copy of the tools that Darrell Peart designed sold by Lee Valley, only a little cheaper looking. The cheesiest part, aside from the blatant ripoff, are the molded plastic faux-ebony plugs to go in the holes. Not to mention, they didn't cut the holes deep enough for the pic in the ad, so they don't sit all the way in the hole. Really classy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyami Plotke Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 I saw the same add and had the same thought. Let's hope Darrell's punches keep selling at they're the real deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flairwoodworks Posted April 9, 2011 Report Share Posted April 9, 2011 Here's a LINK. I wonder how you get the chips out of the tool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alindsey Posted April 10, 2011 Report Share Posted April 10, 2011 I got the latest Rockler catalog, and noticed that they have a square cutting chisel for cutting square holes for A&C/G&G plugs. Basically a copy of the tools that Darrell Peart designed sold by Lee Valley, only a little cheaper looking. The cheesiest part, aside from the blatant ripoff, are the molded plastic faux-ebony plugs to go in the holes. Not to mention, they didn't cut the holes deep enough for the pic in the ad, so they don't sit all the way in the hole. Really classy. Looks like they just took a chisel from a hollow chisel mortiser and attached a handle to it. You're right - cheese factor 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlingenfelter Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 It doesn't look like they really intend to make a square hole with those things, jut a "dent" to hold those cheesy plugs! I have the LV punches and I have been giving them a workout on my latest G&G project. The LV punches are great, don't accept an imitation (and bad one at that)!. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcornHouse Posted April 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 Plus, the LV originals are not that much more than these Johnny-come-latelys AND have many more sizes available. (And they look cooler too. I mean, yellow? C'mon.) Peart originals, accept no substitute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon003 Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 black plastic accents? eeeeeewwwwwww. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdoering Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 You can even see gaps where the arches are for the points on the sides in that last picture... Horrible... It's like Marc's blog post a couple years ago showing painted on through tenons on a stool... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_in_SD Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 I bought one of Darrell's original square punches and then bought additional sizes through Lee Valley -- very nice tool. I viewed the video on Rocker site. It was incorrectly stated the the ebony plugs were used as mortise pins. Actually I believe most ( if not all) were decorative only. I can't believe Rockler will actually resell these things.. My opinion of Rocker just went down a notch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_in_SD Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 One more note. In G&G the square pegs don't sit flush in the hole -- they sit proud. Also these molded thingies look trapezoid rather than the pillowing effect you want with the ebony plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ztifpatrick Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Darrell's punches are great, would buy them again in a heartbeat. Just rememberas Darrell says, punch first, then drill BEFORE removing the tool. Lee Valley seem to have got the directions wrong, they say drill first , then punch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlingenfelter Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I agree Chris, Darrell's method works much better. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikbrown Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Wow those are some ugly plugs!!!! If I wanted to build with plastic I wouldn't be a WOODworker! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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