Llama Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Mel, that is one of the most well reasoned and fair comments I have heard on the topic. Thank you for that perspective. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G S Haydon Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Mel, that's an interesting take on the word inferior within this context. I personally find the word inferior brings a negative slant. "Not well suited to hand tool work" might take longer to say but it much clearer and something I would agree with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Mel, that's an interesting take on the word inferior within this context. I personally find the word inferior brings a negative slant. "Not well suited to hand tool work" might take longer to say but it much clearer and something I would agree with. I find supermodels inferior. Their legs are just too darn long for me to know what to do with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just to challenge you again Mel I used my new ln la jack and flushed a lot of my plywood edges that slipped. For example, on the toe kick bases, I went around with the jack plane until i registered dead flat with no twist. Checked with 50" straight edge. I did this top and bottom so the cabinet sat perfectly, and so the mating surface to the carcase was a supreme fit. See that peoples, you can do it, it is possible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just to challenge you again Mel I used my new ln la jack and flushed a lot of my plywood edges that slipped. For example, on the toe kick bases, I went around with the jack plane until i registered dead flat with no twist. Checked with 50" straight edge. I did this top and bottom so the cabinet sat perfectly, and so the mating surface to the carcase was a supreme fit. See that peoples, you can do it, it is possible! Don't forget to sharpen your blade alot more frequently when attemting this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Also, to be fair... You should use a handsaw and rip a straight edge on plywood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 My blades get the royal treatment Mel Point is anything can be done, with whatever you have to work with in the shop. Was this the best solution, I don't know. But, I decided on this method instead of sitting around thinking of something better and wasting time, and it proved to be 100% successful with no backlash. Cabinets were placed on table saw top with no visible gap to the table surface and no rocking whatsoever. I'd say the hand tool method nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Also, to be fair... You should use a handsaw and rip a straight edge on plywood. To be fair Mel, you own a table saw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 To be fair Mel, you own a table saw Touché Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 See what I did there Mel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 See what I did there Mel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wilkins Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just to throw out another perspective. In Jim Tolpin's New Traditional Woodworker he states that he doesn't use plywood because of the glues and such causing health problems (paraphrasing of course). What about that aspect of it's use? Has anybody seen this happen? Heard about it in other sources? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Massaranduba dust from hand planing, card scraping, and burning is not without impact on health. There may be a point there but I believe it is minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwacker Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Just to throw out another perspective. In Jim Tolpin's New Traditional Woodworker he states that he doesn't use plywood because of the glues and such causing health problems (paraphrasing of course). What about that aspect of it's use? Has anybody seen this happen? Heard about it in other sources? Formaldehyde is becoming a thing of the past and is highly regulated. Even the imported ply has such low levels It not a real worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CessnaPilotBarry Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Don't forget to sharpen your blade alot more frequently when attemting this I agree that glue is harder on blades than wood, but I've handplaned plywood edges more than I ever thought I would, and A2 irons seem to handle it pretty well. It's not fun, and it's a lot harder to read a shaving, so I agree with your point on why Galoots don't use much plywood, but it's not all that abusive to the tools. I also joint and thickness plane 1/4" Baltic birch ply for sled and jig runners, using a limited cutting depth, and it hasn't caused huge issues for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkirby Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 Think yourselves lucky you have ply i cant get hold of anything worth using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopnhack Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Ok, I am going to go out on a limb here.... I have used my Veritas shoulder plane to tighten up dado's on my plywood box joinery. There, I've said it! Do with me as you will... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 My comparison was just meant as such. A comparison. We can all agree there are better tools to work sheet goods. Yes, we can all take a shaving or two off plywood, but to build a sideboard with plywood, and only handtools would be a silly way to go about it. Is it possible, yes. Is it silly, yes! I'm sure I can build a table using only chisels. Would it prove anything? Only that I'm crazy enough to do it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 My comparison was just meant as such. A comparison. We can all agree there are better tools to work sheet goods. Yes, we can all take a shaving or two off plywood, but to build a sideboard with plywood, and only handtools would be a silly way to go about it. Is it possible, yes. Is it silly, yes! I'm sure I can build a table using only chisels. Would it prove anything? Only that I'm crazy enough to do it! I can see the next contest now.. Please see me, I'm selling tickets Shhhhhh Mel, I'll split it with you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 But you have a table saw Mel!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 But you have a table saw Mel!!! I really don't use it that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted October 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 I can see the next contest now.. Please see me, I'm selling tickets Shhhhhh Mel, I'll split it with you Oh, I'll do it! I'm CRAZY! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted October 11, 2013 Report Share Posted October 11, 2013 Oh, I'll do it! I'm CRAZY! lol Please see me for tickets.. Ten dollars each, 1/2 price for seniors and military... Line forms to the right please.. Paypal account to follow... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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