Guest Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 If you didn't want to spend for the L-N or Veritas brands, but wanted better quality than Stanley & Groz, for mortise and tennon work, who would you consider? Thanks Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Bennett Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 If you didn't want to spend for the L-N or Veritas brands, but wanted better quality than Stanley & Groz, for mortise and tennon work, who would you consider? Thanks Brian Quangshen get consistently rave reviews over here in Europe. Obviously Chinese but,then some! and absolutely definitely better than those you list. Not the L-N or Veritas obviously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmaichel Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 If you didn't want to spend for the L-N or Veritas brands, but wanted better quality than Stanley & Groz, for mortise and tennon work, who would you consider? Thanks Brian Older Stanley planes would be the way to go if you did not want to spring for LN or Veritas. Check out this website Brass City. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhl.verona Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Quangshen get consistently rave reviews over here in Europe. Obviously Chinese but,then some! and absolutely definitely better than those you list. Not the L-N or Veritas obviously Very true. Some sell them as Qiangsheng or Quangsheng, others use their own brand names. Sold in America by Woodcraft under the Woodriver brand name. AFAIK though, they don't yet make a rebate/rabbet or shoulder plane. Caveat Emptor - Woodcraft are discounting the V3 bench planes right now, probably because the improved V4 planes are a-comin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwatson Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 id suggest you try out the woodriver planes. from what i have seen of them in the store they are much better looking than the groz. i refurbish planes and have a large collection that i have done that with and use. thats another route you can follow. im a budget hobbyist and its the only way I can afford to buy planes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdbuilder Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Thumbs up on the Woodrivers Value wise when comparing to a rehabbed Stanley consider you're getting the appr. $50 premium A2 blade + chip breaker you'd want to buy for the renewed Stanley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pants Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 I've heard good things about the Wood River planes as well, though they require some tuneup. Personally I'd rehab an old Stanley and put a better iron in it. Much cheaper than LV/LN and would work extremely well. Of course I enjoy rehabbing old tools your mileage may vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMarcel Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 The Woodrivers look great in the store; hefty, nicely cast (at least the ones on display). While I've never used one, that they are coming up with improved versions impresses me. Tell me they are making strides to improve the product line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwatson Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 i still havent replaced an iron in a plane yet. I have always just reestablish the bevel and hone. I want to try a hock iron. Hock irons are decently priced actually. I have a stanley 5 I need to put one in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon003 Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 If you don't want to pay for LV or LN, then be prepared to pay in time spent tuning up whatever you do buy. Check out some of the wood river reviews and consider what your own shop time is worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flairwoodworks Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 If you didn't want to spend for the L-N or Veritas brands, but wanted better quality than Stanley & Groz, for mortise and tennon work, who would you consider? Thanks Brian Brian, Unless I'm mistaken, the Woodriver line doesn't have plane suited to tuning tenons. To trim tenons to fit the mortises, you can use a float or a skew chisel instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwatson Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 totally missed that he wanted to clean up tenons lol. I have a stanley 75 i use its a bullnose rabbet plane about 4 inches long. also might consider one of these. http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=46324&cat=1,41182,46334 rabbet planes and shoulder planes are similar, the difference is that the shoulder plane has a lower angle bed for the iron. rabbet planes will work for the same job. edit: surprised woodriver doesnt have a shoulder or rabbet plane. maybe thats next. they even have spokeshaves, block planes, and chisel planes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baok Posted January 21, 2011 Report Share Posted January 21, 2011 I found my Stanley planes in antique stores which worked for me but is pretty time consuming. Still, they're nice and they were cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilburpan Posted January 22, 2011 Report Share Posted January 22, 2011 If you didn't want to spend for the L-N or Veritas brands, but wanted better quality than Stanley & Groz, for mortise and tennon work, who would you consider? I'd save up for L-N or Veritas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muddlermike Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 the Anant bullnose is a serviceable, inexpensive plane that will trim cheeks and shoulders for around $50-$60. The iron won't hold an edge like the Veritas but that can be replaced with a hock if you like. As for a low angle block, I would also suggest a decent antique or the anants if you're looking to go inexpensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac Posted January 29, 2011 Report Share Posted January 29, 2011 Caveat Emptor - Woodcraft are discounting the V3 bench planes right now, probably because the improved V4 planes are a-comin'. Actually Woodcraft was just clearing out the V2 and are just getting the V3. I think that they are a version behind the European relative. I would have to agree about the value and quality of the Woodrivers. I recently got a #6 V2 and am very pleased with it. Very nice and clean casting as well as a nice thick iron and chipbreaker. Fit and finish is very nice as well. I havent take sole to stone yet, but I put a straightedge to the sole and it appeared to be VERY flat. Overall I am impressed with the quality. I am thinking about getting a #5 as well. As for the wanting to do M&T work, I would go with a rabbet plane from LN or LV. I have a LN 102I and a 60 1/2R and love them both. You cant go wrong with the quality that you will get from both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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