Lee Bussy Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 (edited) Let's not talk about how a new Freud blade in a Rigid circular saw will cut through extruded aluminum. Let's talk about a replacement fence system that's an upgrade.I found a few older (more than 4 years old) posts around the Internet saying this Delta T2 is the way to go for the price. Still true? I know the big B is the Cadillac, under 2 bills seems like a better idea for a job site saw. Anyone familiar with Toolbarn.com? They seem to have the lower price:http://www.toolbarn.com/delta-36t30.html?gclid=CJ_mvaD-nMcCFRAxaQodIK4OMQ&ad=54710738894 Edited August 10, 2015 by LBussy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted August 9, 2015 Report Share Posted August 9, 2015 Oh no... I take it your reason for upgrading involved some excitement? I have to admit, I didn't realize it would be feasible to put one of the aftermarket fences on the job site saws. I saw numerous posts about replacing the stock fence on the larger cast iron ridgid saws... That's not what you're thinking of? Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bussy Posted August 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Honestly, the only clue anything was happening was a strange "buzzing" sound that turned out to be the teeth making music with the measuring tape that serves as a scale. I mean if I had not stopped it would have cut clean through the rail.What I took away from my searching was that it was meant to be a replacement for Delta saws, but if I was willing to drill some holes it would mount on anything. Not sure if that's correct or not.I did search for a replacement piece, but they want $100 for it and that's just a little ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Check into Very Super Cool Tools. They have a very nice fence system, dunno about the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bussy Posted August 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Pretty sure I'm about to lose a lot of time poking around on that website. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Checkout the Vega fence, I know a people have mounted to a contractor saw. I may be reading this wrong, but how did you cut through the rail? Doesn't seem possible, please elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Dunno about the OP's fence, but mine has a slice diagonally through the bottom. Apparently a prior owner attempted to put the fence back on the rail while the saw was running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bussy Posted August 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I can see a picture will be necessary - I'll post one later. I'll check out Vega too, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bussy Posted August 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) So here's what I did ... it seems I was not clear enough with my description so I've attached a pic. It was my circular saw that I was using cutting a piece of MDF using the saw as a table. The front rail is >$100 at the typical replacement parts places. Before I spend that sort of lettuce I want to see if I can invest a little more and get an upgrade.I was looking at the information on VerySuperCool Tools website and it seems to me having a "standard" rail is just a matter of a piece of angle iron and some square tubing. Is that all there is to it?Does a Biesemeyer style fence also clamp in the back or is it 100% driven by the front rail? Edited August 11, 2015 by LBussy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted August 11, 2015 Report Share Posted August 11, 2015 That makes a lot more sense... I was trying to figure out how you would manage to cut the front rail using the table saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I believe the Biesmeyer, and most aftermarket fences, use a T-square arrangement that clamps to the front rail only. That's one good reason to avoid a cheap aftermarket fence, as they are often not stiff enough to prevent flexing is you push the work piece up tight to the fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevenn77 Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I have used a shop fox version of the Biesmeyer system and am very happy with it. I am currently ordering the 72" for my new uni saw. If the the square tube style fits I would look at the shop fox setups for a budget friendly solution. Both the rails and the fence in a 30" kit have served me well on my Jet saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 So here's what I did ... it seems I was not clear enough with my description so I've attached a pic. It was my circular saw that I was using cutting a piece of MDF using the saw as a table. The front rail is >$100 at the typical replacement parts places. Before I spend that sort of lettuce I want to see if I can invest a little more and get an upgrade.I was looking at the information on VerySuperCool Tools website and it seems to me having a "standard" rail is just a matter of a piece of angle iron and some square tubing. Is that all there is to it?Does a Biesemeyer style fence also clamp in the back or is it 100% driven by the front rail? yes, the rail system is just as you stated. Square tubing and angle iron. Check out their you tube page. IT had a how to and parts video somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bussy Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I watched the VerySuperCoolTools vids last night and I think I may head that way. On a jobsite saw the rails may become a sunk cost (but not much) however the actual fence will be an investment I can take to new saws if I upgrade (or at least it seems that way.)Maybe it's a serendipitous mistake.I'll go check out ShopFox too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-MattK- Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Hi Lee - I put the Delta T-2 (36-T30) on my Jet contractors saw (JWTS-10). It was a terrific upgrade over the factory fence. I can't speak for the other aftermarket fences that are being listed above, but the Delta was terrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bussy Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Hi Lee - I put the Delta T-2 (36-T30) on my Jet contractors saw (JWTS-10). It was a terrific upgrade over the factory fence. I can't speak for the other aftermarket fences that are being listed above, but the Delta was terrific.Thank you sir.I think (and maybe I'm WAY wrong) that if I am going to be drilling holes I may as well do so and make a Biesemeyer style rail to open up my choices. It might cost a couple bucks more when I am done, but I think it may be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 I would think building a vsct rail system would also be good for future Saws. You may need to drill new holes in the rail to move it over but ooh well, it's square tubing. Your not killing the structural integrity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted August 12, 2015 Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Maybe I'm missing something, but looking at the picture I don't see how that little oopsie makes your fence unusable. So it's got a saw cut in it? Aside from your pride, what's it hurt?If you want to upgrade the fence anyway, I get it...any excuse is a good excuse. I have a VSCT on my saw and I love it.PS...build a workbench. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bussy Posted August 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2015 Maybe I'm missing something, but looking at the picture I don't see how that little oopsie makes your fence unusable. So it's got a saw cut in it? Aside from your pride, what's it hurt?SSSHHHHHHHH!!!! I told the wife it was ruined!The way that cut is f's my ability to use the slide-out to extend the table, and eats the measuring tape. That and it hurts my pride. PS...build a workbench. Ironically, I was cutting some MDF for a workbench when that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krtwood Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 SSSHHHHHHHH!!!! I told the wife it was ruined!I'm afraid it's a lot worse than you thought. The whole saw is ruined. Going to have to move up to a hybrid or cabinet saw. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bussy Posted August 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 I'm afraid it's a lot worse than you thought. The whole saw is ruined. Going to have to move up to a hybrid or cabinet saw. Obviously I need a SawStop right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Obviously I need a SawStop right away.your going to have to sacrifice your index finger, just the tip, then you'll get your sawstop, or the wife will demand that you give up woodworking all together... It's a gamble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Bussy Posted August 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 I already have "kerfs" in my fingers. Maybe I can just casually mention those some day and lead her to water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinF Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 I already have "kerfs" in my fingers. Maybe I can just casually mention those some day and lead her to water.just don't push to hard, she might buck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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