Frank Speyerer Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I thought you might be interested in this unique problem of fellow woodworkers. I think that many of us will find this article interesting. http://saintjosephabbey.com/ http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/08/st_joseph_abbey_battles_state.html Marc, in the interest of full disclosure, I once studied at St. Joseph Seminary...50 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zabo Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 I thought you might be interested in this unique problem of fellow woodworkers. I think that many of us will find this article interesting. http://saintjosephabbey.com/ http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/08/st_joseph_abbey_battles_state.html Marc, in the interest of full disclosure, I once studied at St. Joseph Seminary...50 years ago. Hi Marc I'm from Lafayette in S. Louisiana and have been wanting to visit the Abby. We go camping on the North Shore quite often and next time we are in that area we will be certain to visit. Do you happen to know if they will let you visit the woodworking area it would be quite interesting to talk to some of the brothers. Kirk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Speyerer Posted August 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Hi Marc I'm from Lafayette in S. Louisiana and have been wanting to visit the Abby. We go camping on the North Shore quite often and next time we are in that area we will be certain to visit. Do you happen to know if they will let you visit the woodworking area it would be quite interesting to talk to some of the brothers. Kirk Kirk, Your best bet is to contact Mark Coudrain (985 867-5161) for further information. Deacon Mark is the woodshop's director The Woodworks website is http://saintjosephabbey.com/woodworks.html Let us know how it goes. Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Beautiful caskets!! I'm just gonna get fired. Prepare myself for what's coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilburpan Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 1. I hope the monks win their case, and win big. 2. I like how the monks have a Festool sander. And did you see that SCMI sliding table saw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsworkbench Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 More power to the prayerful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMarcel Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Best part of the video was where they were pushing the plywood through the slider... it looked more like the two monks were just walking saying a prayer while the plywood went through. So, a naive question: why can't the monastery go pay for the license needed? Seems like it would be cheaper than the legal battle. I know the license is for more than just making caskets, but I doubt the license comes with a requirement that the other functions be used, too (unlike, say, a liquor license for a restaurant). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beechwood Chip Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 So, a naive question: why can't the monastery go pay for the license needed? Seems like it would be cheaper than the legal battle. I had the same thought. If I remember correctly, the article said that someone would need to work full time as an apprentice under a licensed mortician for several years, and would need to run a funeral home with parlors, embalming facilities, etc. If this is correct, it seems like the law is designed to make sure that the current morticians can pass their business to their heirs, but no other competition is allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Speyerer Posted August 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 ...why can't the monastery go pay for the license needed? There is more to it than just buying a license to sell caskets. In order for the monks to sell caskets in Louisiana they would have to become funeral directors. To become a funeral director in Louisiana, state law requires at 30 semester hours of college and a one-year apprenticeship during which the candidate must preside over at least 25 funerals. A funeral home license requires embalming by a licensed embalmer. To meet these requirement he Abbey would need to be redesigned into a traditional funeral parlor. Abbot Justin said satisfying the state regulatory board standards is not feasible because the abbey does not intend to offer funeral parlor services. Beechwood is correct in his thinking that the funeral directors are looking to limit competition. The one thing to keep in mind is that the whole casket building operation only involves 3 men. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperbender1960 Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 And yet in several states they sell caskets at Costco. There is something truly wrong with some systems... Just sayin' Glen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMarcel Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Beechwood definitely nailed it (pun intended ) So much for free competition; it'll only change when all the heirs except one bail on being morticians then someone will point out the monopoly. The monks should push for a law that says you can't preside over a religious funeral ceremony unless you have studied 30 hours under a Jesuit college. As for CostCo, I'd bet they sell them in 2-packs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Speyerer Posted August 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Maybe the Brothers should build "bookcases". http://www.lastthings.net/bookcase.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Speyerer Posted April 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 The monks won a small victory in the courts. http://www.ij.org/about/3761 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateswoodworks Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Hopefully this little win is just the start of a big win. Thanks for sharing this. Nate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Speyerer Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 Woodworkers in court, the saga continues. St. Joseph Abbey monks, Louisiana funeral industry clash in court over casket sales restriction http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/06/st_joseph_abbey_monks_louisian.html#incart_mce Trial involving casket sales restriction challenge by St. Joseph Abbey monks concludes http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/06/trial_involving_st_joseph_abbe.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Speyerer Posted March 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2013 St. Joseph Abbey casket sales can't be stopped by funeral industry, federal court rule. http://www.nola.com/religion/index.ssf/ ... e_rig.html Thanks be to God and a reasonable judicial system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I wish them success . I have built a few caskets. It is not easy, especially the old fashioned body shaped caskets. The funeral industry preys on people when they are vulnerable and grief stricken . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Frank Speyerer Posted October 16, 2013 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Deo Gratias. Consummatum est. (Thank God. It is finished.) http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2013/10/st_joseph_abbey_monks_can_sell.html 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopnhack Posted October 16, 2013 Report Share Posted October 16, 2013 Deo Gratias. Consummatum est. (Thank God. It is finished.) http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2013/10/st_joseph_abbey_monks_can_sell.html Thank God indeed! It's a shame our legal system doesn't take a page from some other countries where the losing party pays the other's cost!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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