Eric. Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, woodbutcher said: No i totally get you now Eric. And im with you on the fact that acheiving perfect air is probably not worth what it costs with a dust collector alone. I think ill just buy a respirator and a dust collector thats good enough to keep the shop clean. Yeah don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a beast of a system. But I don't know, I just have trouble justifying the cost vs. what you really gain. Again, if I were in my basement it would be a definite priority. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeset202 Posted September 2, 2017 Report Share Posted September 2, 2017 4 hours ago, woodbutcher said: No i totally get you now Eric. And im with you on the fact that acheiving perfect air is probably not worth what it costs with a dust collector alone. I think ill just buy a respirator and a dust collector thats good enough to keep the shop clean. Recommend you look at a 2 stage system with a cyclone (dust deputy etc) to separate the shavings and dust or you will be plugging filters quickly and losing suction power. Lots to choose from in the marketplace. Lots of people buy the cheap HF dust collector, add a cyclone and a canister filter. Not sure how that price compares to something like the mini gorilla system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekcohen Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 The problem with an add-on, such as the Super Dust Deputy, is that it requires more power to drive it. So, it certainly can help in separating chips (I know as I have one), but it does little for the collection of fine dust that vents from the DC itself. My own plan is get a Clearvue. I'd also like to find a way to vent outdoors - now I need to find a way to prevent my neighbours discovering this! Regards from Perth Derek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 I added the SDD and made up for the lost efficiency by venting outside. How much is gained or lost from either factor, who knows, but the convenience of never having to deal with filters is totally worth it even if it's a net loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 9 minutes ago, Eric. said: I added the SDD and made up for the lost efficiency by venting outside. How much is gained or lost from either factor, who knows, but the convenience of never having to deal with filters is totally worth it even if it's a net loss. Is it really loud where you exhaust outdoors? I have been considering this, but am worried about the noise for my neighbor (who is quite close to me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just now, rodger. said: Is it really loud where you exhaust outdoors? I have been considering this, but am worried about the noise for my neighbor (who is quite close to me). How loud is really loud? I'd say it's somewhere between a mouse fart and a freight train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Try routing the exterior vent through some landscape plantings to muffle the noise, and hide the plume when you eventually forget to empty the can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Eric. said: How loud is really loud? I'd say it's somewhere between a mouse fart and a freight train. Does is sound like putting the entire dust collector outside? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, rodger. said: Does is sound like putting the entire dust collector outside? Oh no, it's not that loud. It's kind of difficult to quantify a sound without speaking in decibels but I have no idea what that number is. I can't imagine it's a whole lot louder than my AC condenser. I mean it makes noise but it's not obnoxious noise. I live in suburbia with neighbors nearby and I've never had a complaint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 I've got a db app on my phone. I think it was cheap or free. From 10 ft away the exhaust alone is just a whooshing noise. The noise of the impeller is the irritating sound to me. I think a section of flex hose with even a couple of bends in it would diminish the impeller noise outdoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Is it really loud where you exhaust outdoors? I have been considering this, but am worried about the noise for my neighbor (who is quite close to me). I just checked with a db meter app on my phone. I have an Oneida V-system and from 5-6 feet away inside it was 68-70 db. Outside from the same distance was 70-72db. For reference, this is not very loud. My dad and I were in the shop talking with the cyclone going no prob. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric. Posted September 3, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 I shot a quick video running my DC from outside. Probably a poor representation of real life but at least it's a ballpark idea. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 I shot a quick video running my DC from outside. Probably a poor representation of real life but at least it's a ballpark idea. Download a db app and check it. I'm curious to see if it's similar to mine. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 1 minute ago, shaneymack said: Download a db app and check it. I'm curious to see if it's similar to mine. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk Which app are you using so we can compare apples to apples? That's punny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 Which app are you using so we can compare apples to apples? That's punny. LoL. I just downloaded it from the Google play store. It's called "Sound Meter". Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, shaneymack said: LoL. I just downloaded it from the Google play store. It's called "Sound Meter". Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk From about 6 feet away it reads 76db. Sitting here in front of my computer in the shop with the AC and fan running close by it reads 68db. Listening to music at a fairly loud but not ridiculous level it's reading between 78-82. You gotta wonder how accurate this thing is though LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 From about 6 feet away it reads 76db. Sitting here in front of my computer in the shop with the AC and fan running close by it reads 68db. Listening to music at a fairly loud but not ridiculous level it's reading between 78-82. You gotta wonder how accurate this thing is though LOL. Ya for sure but it does give us a point of reference. Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 That's quieter than I thought - thanks fellas. Could easily be mistaken as a central vac. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted September 3, 2017 Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 It's similar to a powerful downdraft stove vent , without the burnt food smells . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 22 hours ago, Eric. said: From about 6 feet away it reads 76db. Sitting here in front of my computer in the shop with the AC and fan running close by it reads 68db. Listening to music at a fairly loud but not ridiculous level it's reading between 78-82. You gotta wonder how accurate this thing is though LOL. What size is your exhaust pipe? I have been considering venting outside, and have a 5" inlet. I am thinking that would mean a 5" exhaust as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, rodger. said: What size is your exhaust pipe? I have been considering venting outside, and have a 5" inlet. I am thinking that would mean a 5" exhaust as well. My DC outlet is bolted directly to the wall. I was fortunate that I hadn't drywalled my shop before I installed the DC so I just "framed" the area where the outlet was mounted. But yes I would go at least 5". You can't go too big, only too small. As long as your pipe is larger than your DC's exhaust port, you're fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 20 minutes ago, Eric. said: My DC outlet is bolted directly to the wall. I was fortunate that I hadn't drywalled my shop before I installed the DC so I just "framed" the area where the outlet was mounted. But yes I would go at least 5". You can't go too big, only too small. As long as your pipe is larger than your DC's exhaust port, you're fine. The issue is that my outlet is huge (20+ inches) - it's the design of the collector. This means that I need to make a plywood ring and then attach a take off to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 21 minutes ago, rodger. said: The issue is that my outlet is huge (20+ inches) - it's the design of the collector. This means that I need to make a plywood ring and then attach a take off to it. Yeah you have some mods on your plate then. You also need to add a cyclone or everything will blow right out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted September 4, 2017 Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Eric. said: Yeah you have some mods on your plate then. You also need to add a cyclone or everything will blow right out. Not too wild about drilling a 6" hole in the side of my brick house. So I got to thinking... A 6" hole has an area of 28.26 square inches, and would require a lot of work to drill out (and disturb 4 -6 bricks). However, a rectangular vent that requires the removal of one full brick, has an area of 32.5" (brick is 10x3.25). The rectangle vent is equivalent to a 6.4" round hole. Does this make sense? Is there any reason that a circular hole is preferred to a rectangular hole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhankx Posted September 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2017 On 8/28/2017 at 1:51 PM, Dhankx said: I feel like I'm learning a new term every day. Now it's blast gate! So I get this: https://www.harborfreight.com/70-gal-2-hp-industrial-dust-collector-61790.html Or this: https://www.harborfreight.com/2-hp-industrial-5-micron-dust-collector-97869.html Plus this: https://smile.amazon.com/POWERTEC-70201-4-Inch-Three-Machine-Collection/dp/B01N21P1WE/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1503942381&sr=8-9&keywords=blast+gate Plus 4" tubing and I'm good to go? On 8/28/2017 at 2:13 PM, RichardA said: Go with the 5 micron DC and that blast gate selection., and a hose. But get the hose from Rockler, they have a set of quick connects that will save you anger. Or you can set up a perminent routing with either Metal tubing, or 4" pvc or just flex hose. Being new to this, you'll learn a lot more terms. But that would be a decent set up to start with. And never use a 90* turn always 2 45* turns. Just finished putting it up. Worst instructions ever! Even had to make a run to the store because it was missing bolts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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