wouldwurker Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Vinn, I noticed on a pic you posted yesterday with the square hole punch container on top, the countersink holes look perfect with no tear out. What did you use to make them? It's the Lee Valley tapered bit set w/ the countersinks. http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/Page.aspx?p=32309&cat=1,180,42240 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Ooooo, aaaaahhhh, no kidding! Wow, does that ever pop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 Holy crap!!! Is that just danish oil on magogany?Watco Butcher Block - higher resin content than their Danish oil varnish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janello Posted April 7, 2015 Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 More details on the finish please, I have a project I am working on with the same wood. How many coats? Did you use a sealer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2015 See below, but note I might be switching to Arm-R-Seal. Not sure what I want to do yet. The above pic was on test boards.No sealer.I don't apply Watco Butcher Block in the way you would on a butcher block, as I like to create a really thick film with the last coat.First coat gets flooded, rubbed in pretty aggressively with a rag and wiped off with a clean rag after 15 minutes.Second coat same as the first, but wiped off clean after 5 minutes, as it'll tack up much quicker. Since it's mahogany, I'll likely use a 1000g Abelron pad (mirka) to rub it on and do a little slurry pore filling.Third coat goes on wet and thick, like Arm-R-Seal. I give the last coat 48 hours to cure.Very little fume off time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Finish test board update . Might skip the arm r seal altogether. (Small piece) One coat Watco butcher block (Large piece). First coat DO dried 2 weeks. Second coat Watco Butcher block -laid on thick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 I vote for #2! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 I just pee'd a little Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted April 8, 2015 Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 There was a poster the other day that found some walnut he'd stashed some time back, my comment was it was drop dead! But Vinny, what you've done makes drop dead, common! Extremely , and I mean extremely well done young man! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2015 Quick question about glue/epoxy.Will epoxy bond ok to a finished surface?More detailed question below:Because I'm going to use West Systems epoxy for my ebony plugs after the parts are all finished (Watco Butcher Block), I thought it would just be easier to use epoxy for the dominos as well (and the connecting surfaces). Also, maybe a just a little tiny bit of it on the finger joints, before they get screwed in.So my question(s):- I've been a bit more 'reckless' with my first round of prefinishing, knowing that I'd likely use epoxy in lieu of glue. As such I figured it was better to have finish on a joinery surface then to potentially not have even finish on the surrounding areas (tape lines, etc). So of course there are little drips into the mortises here and there and I rubbed finish on the finger joints entirely.Safe to assume that epoxy won't pose any problems sticking to a finished surface? I'm also assuming that Titebond WOULD have a problem sticking to a finished surface.- I read that epoxy isn't a great choice for dominos, as their tight fit and 'rigid line' surface isn't suited well for a strong epoxy bond - which makes sense to me. The suggestion was to sand down the dominos a tad, which also makes sense to me. Any issues here?- I also made this decision based on the fact that I don't want to stress over glue squeeze-out on my finished surface, in the event I'd like to touch up the finish.Thanks....I hope that was still an 'easy quick question' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I'm interested to hear the responses too. I always tape off faces getting glue if I prefinish parts. If you sand off the sides of the dominos it gives you a little space for squeeze out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Plugging away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Note to self - wear a respirator next time I do this...pretty sure I have the (cough cough) black lung. Just sitting on top... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Looks awesome Vinny! I can't get over how good that finish looks. Can't wait to see how this thing looks fully assembled. On another note - are you the "Vinny from Atlanta" with voicemails on the last two Woodtalk episodes? I suspect there may be more than one person named Vinny in Atlanta, but I figured I'd ask... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Haha. Yeah. Couldn't believe how lousy my Bluetooth connection was on that voicemail. Also, I'm not just the only Vinny in Atlanta..pretty sure i'm the only (half) Italian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 Haha. Yeah. Couldn't believe how lousy my Bluetooth connection was on that voicemail. Also, I'm not just the only Vinny in Atlanta..pretty sure i'm the only (half) Italian. Haha - I've had a few voicemails played on woodtalk and I wince every time I hear myself. Between the "um" and "uh" and the horrible sound of my voice on the phone, I want to smash my radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Vinny, did you put the ebony in a drill, shape and buff the end grain with abralon pads? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yep. Although I started with sanding discs on the abelron pads. 80, 100, 120, 180, 220, 320, 400 Abelron 500, 1000, 2000, 4000 I learned it from Marc, who I believe learned it from William Ng. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Last coat of finish. While the first two were rubbed in with an Abelron 1000g pad, and wiped clean, the 3rd coat was wiped on wet...like Arm R Seal. Stowed away in what I imagine to be the least dusty, or pollen ridden place in my house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Assembly time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wouldwurker Posted April 16, 2015 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Done. To date, this is the project I'm most proud of from a design standpoint. Also the most satisfying, as it's for a guy that's done me quite a few solids over the past 20+ years. In different lighting the color change from end grain/long grain sandwich on the back really looks nice. This was an unintended plus. I'll move a few pics to the project showcase when it's in the coffee bar. Sadly, while today was my deadline to ship for his Saturday grand opening, the finish still feels just a tad tacky, as it's been humid as hell here. I can't sign off on something that's 99% complete, as such I'm sorry to say he'll get it a week late. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Late beats sticky and having fingerprints or packing stuck to it forever ! It looks awesome. And you made it your own original design . Sign it and date it ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Super nice, Vinny! That is really beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wouldwurker Posted April 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Couple notes on prefinishing and using west system epoxy in lieu of titebond glue on this one. - worked out well on the lower shelf, as the squeeze out created a silicon caulk-like seal. I was worried about water getting between that joint, and this was a surprise bonus fix. - it's clear, which means if you do get a little weaponized epoxy drip here and there, you don't see it. That kind of sucks. - I used 'fast' hardener instead of slow. Slow would have been preferable. I was all set up with my assembly line when I realized I'd yet to chisel the taper in my plugs. By the time I realized a few of them were too proud for my liking, I couldn't get the darn things out. - I had an absolute perfect fit in my finger joints. After I added 3 coats of finish...it was TIGHT. In fact, it was so tight I couldn't pry it apart after I tested it..which meant I never got any epoxy under the fingers. - this third coat of watco butcher block is killing me. It's still ever so slightly tacky and I applied it on Sunday. It is curing...albeit slowly. - I love the west system pumps, but I wasted a lot of epoxy. Especially with my using the Fast hardener. I threw away 4 epoxy hockey pucks. I wish they made pumps with half the volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 Vinny this looks outstanding. Very cool original design and you executed it very well. I enjoyed following the build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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