Dman7474 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Has anyone ever made a downdraft table for sanding? I am thinking of making one for my shop. I am fortunate that space is not an issue for me. I have no problem with making a table. My question is would I be able to utilize my dust collection system to use with the table? I have a 5HP cyclone dust collection system. I feel like I could design the table to use my system to extract the dust etc. However, I am not smart enough to know before building it if my dust collection system would work? I am not strong enough to figure out the science behind the air flow etc... Has anyone done anything like this? Maybe I am over thinking this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptFerd Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 I built a simple box and used 1/4" peg board on the top. Used 2 1/2" pipe to pull it in the dust collecter. Nothing scientific about it, you just need a down draft. Heres a link to the one I built. I didnt use the top they sell remember I used that hard board peg board stuff. http://www.rockler.com/images/Down_Draft_Ezplan.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman7474 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Thanks for the reply. That link you posted is the basic concept of what I was going to build. My table will be 40" high 32" deep and 72" long with a 4" dust port. I will use the same type of design as the link and will use the peg board like you did. I beleive I will pull enough volume with my system even with the larger surface area. Just hate to spend the time and $ to find out I am wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sw1 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I spent my money on a festool sander and dust extractor instead. I am limited on space and the combo works great for me. Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave H Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 here is a link to one i was considering building, but now i'm like you, in that i now have dust collection system. maybe this concept can be adapted with the DCS. http://www.woodworkersworkshop.com/plansshare/air_filter_downdraft_sanding_table.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman7474 Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 here is a link to one i was considering building, but now i'm like you, in that i now have dust collection system. maybe this concept can be adapted with the DCS. http://www.woodworkersworkshop.com/plansshare/air_filter_downdraft_sanding_table.htm Yes that is what I am talking about. Seems like I could use my DCS rather than have to purchase a separate impeller. I will give it a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I spent my money on a festool sander and dust extractor instead. I am limited on space and the combo works great for me. Shawn I had a down draft table, got the Festool sander and CT Vac, never used my downdraft table again. I think with your surface area, a 4" port will not be sufficient to move enough air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 I'm in the vac and sand group. I hook up a 2" pipe to the PC ROS and sand away. Recently I rigged up a temporary boom (a rope hanging from the ceiling) that really keeps the cord and vac pipe out of the way, as well as greatly reducing fatigue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman7474 Posted December 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Craig I have the capacity to go up to 6" port if needed. I will look into the Festool system. But I do a lot of hand sanding so figured a downdraft table would kill two birds with one stone. I will take a look at the Festool system and see if it would work for me though. Thanks for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMarcel Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Mirka makes hand sanding blocks in a variety of profiles/sizes with a dust port on them. I believe a Festool hose can connect to them with no adapter. They also sell hoses and adapters for other vacs. Two pros I know have these and love them. For best effect, I think you'd need the meshy Abranet sanding meshes, although I hear only good things about those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman7474 Posted December 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Thank you for the info Paul. I have been researching the Festool dust extractor this afternoon. I can see the advantages.of the tool. One thing I can't seem to determine from the Festool site or the other sites I have visited about the tool is does it also filter the surrounding air while it is running? Maybe I am not bright but I can't determine if it does or does not. Would you happen to know since you know a couple guys that have them? That would sure be an added benefit if it worked with a the hand sanding as you mention. I will keep looking as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMarcel Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 No, the CT dust extractors don't filter the air around you. They include (optional on CT-Mini) HEPA filters, which makes a huge difference on pass-through dust. In the case of the Mirka blocks, there's a small port in the back where the vac would attach. Turn down the CT extractor's suction to low and you won't have any dust. If it keeps the air and surrounds dust-free with a power-sander, it'll handle you with a hand block even if you're jacked up on caffeine You'll have to dig around the FestoolUSA site to find them, but the CT-22/33s are on clearance price since they have been replaced last October. Stil carry the 3 year warranty and 7 year parts guarantee so it isn't like a risky proposition if you prefer one. Mine's a CT-22. The newer CT-26/36 are slightly smaller, quieter, have self-cleaning bags, more airflow, and a stow area for the hoses. Some of that info would be difficult to find on their site, which is why I put it here, though it makes me sound like a salesman... sorry. I'd have to look around, but "ECOFurniture" is Andreas' nickname on other forums; he made a quicky YouTube video showing the dust extraction with those blocks after he got them. Basically dust free. I like that the Mirkas have a longboard block, too. So to reiterate, I have not used the Mirka blocks, but have heard glowing reviews from two pros whose opinions I trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman7474 Posted December 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Paul thank you so much for taking the time to share the info. I will look into it further thanks for the direction! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssrt3 Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 ok i was reading all of the post i like to get stright to the point with the table being 72" long and 32"deep i would put two into one ports i think 4" would be fine but 6" is better like in the plans i would put 2 portions with an angle down basicly build two tables and put them in the same box.dust box.bmp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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