shaneymack Posted April 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Either way, i only paid 80$ That's really like $45 in US money, so you got a great deal Hah! Our doller seems to be doing a bit better, its 64$ usd! Not too bad Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 1 hour ago, shaneymack said: I wonder if its possibly some other rosewood species. That's possible...looks more like East Indian rosewood to me. But like you, I don't have much experience with the rosewoods so I'm definitely not an authority. It's possible that it's gone all the way through the commercial chain of custody mislabeled and no one knew the difference. It's not even like anyone is trying to dupe anyone, it's just a lack of knowledge about the species. That happens at my yard once in a while...a stack will come in labeled as one thing when it's actually something else. Just mislabeled, an honest mistake that you could trace all the way back to the mill in some third world country. It would seem a bit more duplicitous with a species as expensive as BR, but it's still possible... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 7 hours ago, Llama said: That's really like $45 in US money, so you got a great deal Ok, that was just mean :-) The pics are from 'exotic tropical hardwoods' Carlsbad California 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I love how Eric ignores the possibility that it is what it was sold as "jacaranda " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 "Jacaranda" is Brazilian rosewood. And I'm not ignoring that possibility. I'm just saying it doesn't look like the Brazilian rosewood I've seen before, and under the circumstances (illegal to harvest and import, etc, and nearly impossible to find), it seems like there's a decent chance it's not Brazilian rosewood. I added the disclaimer that I'm not a rosewood expert and it's quite possible to likely that I'm wrong. So put THAT in your pipe and smoke it, you crabby old geezer. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shaneymack Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Is it his strength or his butt in dem jeans you're drooling over? Or both? Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Jacaranda amarello or Jacaranda pardo are Fabaceae family not Dalbergia/rosewood family. It is so easy to buy into common names. Look at the pictures and it seems possible they sold what they claimed ,Jacaranda . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob493 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thats definitely not brazilian rosewood. a) If it was, a piece that large would cost hundreds, if not over a 1000 dollars. A guitar manufacturer would have likely purchased all of it by now, especially PRS (they have 2 wood buyers that literally travel around just to buy stock like that) b ) if it IS, then it would desperately need a CITES verification or that is highly highly illegal to sell/buy otherwise c) it doesn't look like brazilian rosewood, sorry! It definitely looks like a true rosewood (dalbergia genus), but it lacks the "Wow" factor of brazilian. That piece lacks the color variation of brazilian rosewood. Just now, shaneymack said: Is it his strength or his butt in dem jeans you're drooling over? Or both? Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk hahahaha couldn't be that disgustingly figured 10 foot walnut slab right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Jacaranda amarello or Jacaranda pardo are Fabaceae family not Dalbergia/rosewood family. It is so easy to buy into common names. Look at the pictures and it seems possible they sold what they claimed ,Jacaranda . This makes sense. The tag said jacaranda and not Brazilian rosewood. I said aka brazilian rosewood because the Internet told me they were the same Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodenskye Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Nice haul Shane! The only wood I looked at today was still in the ground in 100% tree form at the park my sons lacrosse tournament was at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Thats definitely not brazilian rosewood. a) If it was, a piece that large would cost hundreds, if not over a 1000 dollars. A guitar manufacturer would have likely purchased all of it by now, especially PRS (they have 2 wood buyers that literally travel around just to buy stock like that) b ) if it IS, then it would desperately need a CITES verification or that is highly highly illegal to sell/buy otherwise c) it doesn't look like brazilian rosewood, sorry! It definitely looks like a true rosewood (dalbergia genus), but it lacks the "Wow" factor of brazilian. That piece lacks the color variation of brazilian rosewood. Is it his strength or his butt in dem jeans you're drooling over? Or both? Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk hahahaha couldn't be that disgustingly figured 10 foot walnut slab right? It was labeled as jacaranda but apparently jacaranda is not BRW. Who knows. I don't know much about identifying lumber but I like the piece of wood whatever it is. I'd be curious to know what it is though. 80$ a board isnt cheap but its far from cocobolo/ebony prices. I think it is some sort of rosewood but which, no clue. You sure that's not a bubinga slab you're drooling over? Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janello Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 35 minutes ago, wdwerker said: Jacaranda amarello or Jacaranda pardo are Fabaceae family not Dalbergia/rosewood family. It is so easy to buy into common names. Look at the pictures and it seems possible they sold what they claimed ,Jacaranda . You forgot to say...So vape that you fruity pebble punk kid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, wdwerker said: Jacaranda amarello or Jacaranda pardo are Fabaceae family not Dalbergia/rosewood family. It is so easy to buy into common names. Look at the pictures and it seems possible they sold what they claimed ,Jacaranda . According to the Wood Database, jacaranda is another common name for Brazilian rosewood. It's not one that I'd ever heard, but I assumed that Shane's yard had told him it was BR and the Wood Database is usually a pretty trustworthy resource. Maybe phinds will chime in if he sees this thread. And John, I don't vape no mo. So you can squirt that in yer tarlet and flush it big guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 12 minutes ago, Eric. said: According to the Wood Database, jacaranda is another common name for Brazilian rosewood. It's not one that I'd ever heard, but I assumed that Shane's yard had told him it was BR and the Wood Database is usually a pretty trustworthy resource. Maybe phinds will chime in if he sees this thread. And John, I don't vape no mo. So you can squirt that in yer tarlet and flush it big guy. Try a Cusano 18 and that will get your mind back in order. Just kidding, congrats for your progress. Don't look back. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob493 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 1 hour ago, shaneymack said: hahahaha couldn't be that disgustingly figured 10 foot walnut slab right? It was labeled as jacaranda but apparently jacaranda is not BRW. Who knows. I don't know much about identifying lumber but I like the piece of wood whatever it is. I'd be curious to know what it is though. 80$ a board isnt cheap but its far from cocobolo/ebony prices. I think it is some sort of rosewood but which, no clue. You sure that's not a bubinga slab you're drooling over? Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Oh man if thats bubinga, thats even worse... Not the highest of resolutions in that photo, looks like bastogne walnut that I get to use from time to time.. Whatever it is, its absolutely gorgeous! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob493 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 by the way... my tools got dull just by LOOKING at this thread. Have fun with that lol. Make damn sure you have some sharp bits for the lacewood especially, or youre gonna have a bad time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 by the way... my tools got dull just by LOOKING at this thread. Have fun with that lol. Make damn sure you have some sharp bits for the lacewood especially, or youre gonna have a bad time. The lacewood is a fairly soft wood but i imagine it tears out like mad. I have a helical planer and jointer so hopefully that will help. My wife hates the stuff, so not sure what im going to do with it. Maybe shop furniture lol ! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just for the record, Shane...did someone at the yard TELL you it was Brazilian rosewood, or was it just labeled jacaranda and you googled it to find Brazilian rosewood was associated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Leave it to guitar building nerds to sort this all out. Jacaranda is genus of trees that have been planted all over the world, including the southern US. It is a genus, not a species. http://www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-177471.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Ah, good research Mike. So "jacaranda" is a word kind of like "mahogany"...total marketing BS. Clarified, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Just for the record, Shane...did someone at the yard TELL you it was Brazilian rosewood, or was it just labeled jacaranda and you googled it to find Brazilian rosewood was associated? No one told me that at the yard. Just wood database. I did some looking around and it looks like its jacaranda amarelo. Again, no clue what I'm talking about here. Just going by hobbithouse and some pics online. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinds Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 On 4/30/2016 at 9:30 AM, shaneymack said: They had it labeled as jacaranda there. Wood database says jacaranda is brazilian rosewood. I don't know who is right to tell you the truth ! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Although it's true that "jacaranda" is one of the common names used (very rarely) for Dalbergia nigra, I'm a bit surprised that Eric even mentioned that since "jacaranda" is about 99.99% more likely to refer to various other woods. I can provide a list of 50 species that use the name jacaranda. I can assure you that the wood shown in this thread is 100% definitely not Brazilian rosewood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 They had it labeled as jacaranda there. Wood database says jacaranda is brazilian rosewood. I don't know who is right to tell you the truth ! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Although it's true that "jacaranda" is one of the common names used (very rarely) for Dalbergia nigra, I'm a bit surprised that Eric even mentioned that since "jacaranda" is about 99.99% more likely to refer to various other woods. I can provide a list of 50 species that use the name jacaranda. I can assure you that the wood shown in this thread is 100% definitely not Brazilian rosewood. Thanks phinds. Any guess as to what it actually is? Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phinds Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, shaneymack said: Thanks phinds. Any guess as to what it actually is? Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk To me it looks like morado (aka Bolivian rosewood) and "jacaranda" is one of the alternate common names for that wood. Check out the pics on my site and see what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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