BillyJack Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 Looking for stainless coil roofing nails. Anybody here’s of a deal, let me know.. 1 1/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted May 23, 2023 Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 I haven’t needed stainless in years. I know I ran pallets of them at the time. I think they were ordered through Menards of all places. All our other nails came from construction supply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted May 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2023 Figuring at least 18 sq. 20 per bundle x3. To be safe I’ll need 6-7k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 When I look for stainless medium crown staples, the best place I've found them is ebay. I can always find some there in the gauge and length I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted July 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Amazon has 3600 for $199… ouch.. Looking for a small compressor. Will unbox the Bostitch roogpfing nailer and see how many dry shots before my small compressor comes on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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legenddc Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Might be best to rent one if you're doing it over a couple days or a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted July 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 My compressor has a lot of miles on it. If use a compressor on the roof with and it survives, it’s worth it. I have a roll air with a hole in the tank. So it’s out.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 That style of compressor should keep up with at least two experienced roofers. The fast fire paper staplers will need to rest every so often if lots of paper goes on at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted July 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 Anybody know where I can get a better deal, let me know.. Amazon $200 Grip Rite Prime Guard Max MAXC62853 1-1/4-Inch Coil Roofing 304 Ring Shank, Stainless Steel, 3600-Pack Brand: Grip-Rite 4.5 4.5 out of 5 stars 43 ratings $200.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 https://www.menards.com/main/hardware/fasteners-connectors/collated-nails-screws-staples/collated-nails-cleats/bostitch-reg-15-deg-wire-coil-stainless-steel-ring-shank-full-round-head-siding-nails-3-600-count/c3r90bdss/p-1444425530596-c-19718.htm https://www.amazon.com/090-Inch-Stainless-15-Degree-Collated-Applications/dp/B09LQPR3CV/ref=sr_1_3?crid=HP6SMIL46L0X&keywords=1-1%2F4"15°+Wire+Coil+Stainless+Steel+Ring+Shank&qid=1689777016&s=hi&sprefix=1-1%2F4+15+wire+coil+stainless+steel+ring+shank%2Ctools%2C221&sr=1-3 https://www.amazon.com/Grip-Rite-Prime-Guard-MAXC62874/dp/B00DNSFNR6/ref=sr_1_4?crid=HP6SMIL46L0X&keywords=1-1%2F4"15°+Wire+Coil+Stainless+Steel+Ring+Shank&qid=1689777066&s=hi&sprefix=1-1%2F4+15+wire+coil+stainless+steel+ring+shank%2Ctools%2C221&sr=1-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted July 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 On 7/19/2023 at 9:31 AM, Chestnut said: https://www.menards.com/main/hardware/fasteners-connectors/collated-nails-screws-staples/collated-nails-cleats/bostitch-reg-15-deg-wire-coil-stainless-steel-ring-shank-full-round-head-siding-nails-3-600-count/c3r90bdss/p-1444425530596-c-19718.htm https://www.amazon.com/090-Inch-Stainless-15-Degree-Collated-Applications/dp/B09LQPR3CV/ref=sr_1_3?crid=HP6SMIL46L0X&keywords=1-1%2F4"15°+Wire+Coil+Stainless+Steel+Ring+Shank&qid=1689777016&s=hi&sprefix=1-1%2F4+15+wire+coil+stainless+steel+ring+shank%2Ctools%2C221&sr=1-3 https://www.amazon.com/Grip-Rite-Prime-Guard-MAXC62874/dp/B00DNSFNR6/ref=sr_1_4?crid=HP6SMIL46L0X&keywords=1-1%2F4"15°+Wire+Coil+Stainless+Steel+Ring+Shank&qid=1689777066&s=hi&sprefix=1-1%2F4+15+wire+coil+stainless+steel+ring+shank%2Ctools%2C221&sr=1-4 Wrong nails. Roofing not siding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 Freeman SSRN-125C36 15 Degree 1-1/4" x 0.120" Wire Collated Stainless Steel Ring Shank Coil Roofing Nails (3600 Count) https://a.co/d/5HNQ3FM 3600 for $85. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted July 19, 2023 Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 The $200 ones you are looking at are ring shanked the whole length. That’s a waste on shingles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted July 19, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 19, 2023 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084GCLS7H/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A21854LS6Z14FH&psc=1 Best deal I’ve found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted July 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 Another option.. having a real tuff time finding ring shank galvanized. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjTt87H9qeAAxXDjYkEHRBqCxcQFnoECBEQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.acehardware.com%2Fdepartments%2Ftools%2Ffastening-tools%2Fpower-tool-nails%2F2006699&usg=AOvVaw3hPVGQK5ClbG0z5VxhiYGj&opi=89978449 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 What is your roof sheathing? Ring shank works good in wood that going to shrink, but not so great in plywood, or really dried out wood that's been on a roof for a long time. I know testing of new materials shows a higher withdrawn strength, but having taken lots of buildings apart, the increased strength just doesn't hold up over time. Old ring shank nails towards the end of roofing life can almost be pulled out just with fingers. My theory is the rings deform wood fibers going in, which doesn't matter until those wood fibers get cooked over several decades. I'd have to see testing of some 25 year old roofs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted July 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/19/2023 at 4:33 PM, Tpt life said: Freeman SSRN-125C36 15 Degree 1-1/4" x 0.120" Wire Collated Stainless Steel Ring Shank Coil Roofing Nails (3600 Count) https://a.co/d/5HNQ3FM 3600 for $85. Those are smooth shank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted July 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/24/2023 at 2:10 PM, Tom King said: What is your roof sheathing? Ring shank works good in wood that going to shrink, but not so great in plywood, or really dried out wood that's been on a roof for a long time. I know testing of new materials shows a higher withdrawn strength, but having taken lots of buildings apart, the increased strength just doesn't hold up over time. Old ring shank nails towards the end of roofing life can almost be pulled out just with fingers. My theory is the rings deform wood fibers going in, which doesn't matter until those wood fibers get cooked over several decades. I'd have to see testing of some 25 year old roofs. This roof will get ring shank.I’ve had to knock too many smooth nails down over the years. When those nails pop up, they wear into the shingle above and cause leaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted July 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 I’m using ring shank for the same reason you use cleated Powernails on my hardwoods. A guy on Woodnet was putting in his 3/4 maple floor in the same time I was putting in my 3/4 oak floor. He said he had several sleeks after a few months. Using the Powernailer, my floor still doesn’t squeak and it’s been in since 2005 Ring shank don’t back out. Also why the6 use them on wood fencing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted July 24, 2023 Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 That makes sense. They aren't subject to walking out by temperature changes. I was just thinking about how easy they pull out after decades. Here bulkheads on the lake are built from dripping wet treated wood and big ring shank nails. You can't pull that stuff apart when it needs replacing because the wood has shrunk around the nails. It is either cut up, or pulled up with an excavator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted July 24, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2023 I was at Menards looking at shingles. That’s been enough to scramble my brains lately. Ice shield is expensive.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 Wire collated nails don’t back out. The wires anchor. Those nails I linked to are ringed for the top 3/8”. That is seriously all that’s needed. If those are backing out, the decking should be replaced or over sheathed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyJack Posted July 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 There considered smooth shank.. Add 1/8 laminated shingle and 1/2 ply. Why bite 3/8 when I can bite all of it. This is what I consider ring shank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted July 25, 2023 Report Share Posted July 25, 2023 And, I am saying that is a waste of your money. That’s based on real world experience, on thousands of roofs. If you feel you need that, it is a decking issue and not a nail issue. I cannot stop you spending money, I just don’t want anyone making you think you need that level of product. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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