Stainless roofing nails

[BillyJack]

Looking for stainless coil roofing nails. Anybody here’s of a deal, let me know.. 1 1/4

[Tpt life]

I haven’t needed stainless in years. I know I ran pallets of them at the time. I think they were ordered through Menards of all places. All our other nails came from construction supply. 

[BillyJack]

Figuring at least 18 sq. 20 per bundle x3. To be safe I’ll need 6-7k

[Tom King]

When I look for stainless medium crown staples, the best place I've found them is ebay.  I can always find some there in the gauge and length I need.

[BillyJack]

Amazon has 3600 for $199… ouch..

 

Looking for a small compressor. Will unbox the Bostitch roogpfing nailer and see how many dry shots before my small compressor comes on..

[BillyJack]

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[legenddc]

Might be best to rent one if you're doing it over a couple days or a week.

[BillyJack]

My compressor has a lot of miles on it. If  use a compressor  on the roof  with and it survives, it’s worth it. 
 

I have a roll  air with a hole in the tank. So it’s out..

[Tpt life]

That style of compressor should keep up with at least two experienced roofers. The fast fire paper staplers will need to rest every so often if lots of paper goes on at once. 

[BillyJack]

Anybody know where I can get a better deal, let me know.. Amazon $200

Grip Rite Prime Guard Max MAXC62853 1-1/4-Inch Coil Roofing 304 Ring Shank, Stainless Steel, 3600-Pack 

Brand: Grip-Rite

4.5 4.5 out of 5 stars      43 ratings

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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$200.00

[Chestnut]

https://www.menards.com/main/hardware/fasteners-connectors/collated-nails-screws-staples/collated-nails-cleats/bostitch-reg-15-deg-wire-coil-stainless-steel-ring-shank-full-round-head-siding-nails-3-600-count/c3r90bdss/p-1444425530596-c-19718.htm

https://www.amazon.com/090-Inch-Stainless-15-Degree-Collated-Applications/dp/B09LQPR3CV/ref=sr_1_3?crid=HP6SMIL46L0X&keywords=1-1%2F4"15°+Wire+Coil+Stainless+Steel+Ring+Shank&qid=1689777016&s=hi&sprefix=1-1%2F4+15+wire+coil+stainless+steel+ring+shank%2Ctools%2C221&sr=1-3

https://www.amazon.com/Grip-Rite-Prime-Guard-MAXC62874/dp/B00DNSFNR6/ref=sr_1_4?crid=HP6SMIL46L0X&keywords=1-1%2F4"15°+Wire+Coil+Stainless+Steel+Ring+Shank&qid=1689777066&s=hi&sprefix=1-1%2F4+15+wire+coil+stainless+steel+ring+shank%2Ctools%2C221&sr=1-4

[BillyJack]

On 7/19/2023 at 9:31 AM, Chestnut said:

https://www.menards.com/main/hardware/fasteners-connectors/collated-nails-screws-staples/collated-nails-cleats/bostitch-reg-15-deg-wire-coil-stainless-steel-ring-shank-full-round-head-siding-nails-3-600-count/c3r90bdss/p-1444425530596-c-19718.htm

https://www.amazon.com/090-Inch-Stainless-15-Degree-Collated-Applications/dp/B09LQPR3CV/ref=sr_1_3?crid=HP6SMIL46L0X&keywords=1-1%2F4"15°+Wire+Coil+Stainless+Steel+Ring+Shank&qid=1689777016&s=hi&sprefix=1-1%2F4+15+wire+coil+stainless+steel+ring+shank%2Ctools%2C221&sr=1-3

https://www.amazon.com/Grip-Rite-Prime-Guard-MAXC62874/dp/B00DNSFNR6/ref=sr_1_4?crid=HP6SMIL46L0X&keywords=1-1%2F4"15°+Wire+Coil+Stainless+Steel+Ring+Shank&qid=1689777066&s=hi&sprefix=1-1%2F4+15+wire+coil+stainless+steel+ring+shank%2Ctools%2C221&sr=1-4

Wrong nails. Roofing not siding.

 

[Tpt life]

Freeman SSRN-125C36 15 Degree 1-1/4" x 0.120" Wire Collated Stainless Steel Ring Shank Coil Roofing Nails (3600 Count) https://a.co/d/5HNQ3FM
 

3600 for $85. 

[Tpt life]

The $200 ones you are looking at are ring shanked the whole length. That’s a waste on shingles. 

[BillyJack]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084GCLS7H/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A21854LS6Z14FH&psc=1

 

Best deal I’ve found.

[BillyJack]

Another option.. having a real tuff time finding ring shank galvanized.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjTt87H9qeAAxXDjYkEHRBqCxcQFnoECBEQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.acehardware.com%2Fdepartments%2Ftools%2Ffastening-tools%2Fpower-tool-nails%2F2006699&usg=AOvVaw3hPVGQK5ClbG0z5VxhiYGj&opi=89978449

[Tom King]

What is your roof sheathing?  Ring shank works good in wood that going to shrink, but not so great in plywood, or really dried out wood that's been on a roof for a long time.

I know testing of new materials shows a higher withdrawn strength, but having taken lots of buildings apart, the increased strength just doesn't hold up over time.   Old ring shank nails towards the end of roofing life can almost be pulled out just with fingers.  

My theory is the rings deform wood fibers going in, which doesn't matter until those wood fibers get cooked over several decades.

I'd have to see testing of some 25 year old roofs.

[BillyJack]

On 7/19/2023 at 4:33 PM, Tpt life said:

Freeman SSRN-125C36 15 Degree 1-1/4" x 0.120" Wire Collated Stainless Steel Ring Shank Coil Roofing Nails (3600 Count) https://a.co/d/5HNQ3FM
 

3600 for $85. 

Those are smooth shank

[BillyJack]

On 7/24/2023 at 2:10 PM, Tom King said:

What is your roof sheathing?  Ring shank works good in wood that going to shrink, but not so great in plywood, or really dried out wood that's been on a roof for a long time.

I know testing of new materials shows a higher withdrawn strength, but having taken lots of buildings apart, the increased strength just doesn't hold up over time.   Old ring shank nails towards the end of roofing life can almost be pulled out just with fingers.  

My theory is the rings deform wood fibers going in, which doesn't matter until those wood fibers get cooked over several decades.

I'd have to see testing of some 25 year old roofs.

This roof will get ring shank.I’ve had to knock too many smooth nails  down over the years. When those nails pop up, they wear into the shingle above and cause leaks.

[BillyJack]

I’m using ring shank for the same reason you use cleated Powernails on my hardwoods. 
 

A guy on Woodnet  was putting in his 3/4 maple floor in the same time I was putting in my 3/4 oak floor. He said he had several sleeks after a few months. Using the Powernailer, my floor still doesn’t squeak and it’s been in since 2005

 

Ring shank don’t back out. Also why the6 use them on wood fencing..

[Tom King]

That makes sense.  They aren't subject to walking out by temperature changes.  I was just thinking about how easy they pull out after decades.  Here bulkheads on the lake are built from dripping wet treated wood and big ring shank nails.  You can't pull that stuff apart when it needs replacing because the wood has shrunk around the nails.  It is either cut up, or pulled up with an excavator.

[BillyJack]

I was at Menards looking at shingles. That’s been enough to scramble my brains lately. Ice shield is expensive..

[Tpt life]

Wire collated nails don’t back out. The wires anchor. Those nails I linked to are ringed for the top 3/8”. That is seriously all that’s needed. If those are backing out, the decking should be replaced or over sheathed. 

[BillyJack]

There considered smooth shank..

 

Add 1/8 laminated shingle and 1/2 ply. Why bite 3/8 when I can bite all of it. 
 

This is what I consider ring shank.

 

[Tpt life]

And, I am saying that is a waste of your money. That’s based on real world experience, on thousands of roofs. If you feel you need that, it is a decking issue and not a nail issue. I cannot stop you spending money, I just don’t want anyone making you think you need that level of product.