G262 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 What are the benefits of standard non-rabbet hand planes versus rabbet planes? I don't understand why I would own say a regular low angle jack over rabbet jack... thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 I've never seen a rabbeting jack. On The rabbeting plane, the blade extends all the way to the side of the body whereas a normal blade has some space between it and the side of the plane. This standoff distance does not allow you to butt up against an edge and cut to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Benefits of non-rabbet: There is a bit more ruggedness with standard as the sides are not cut through. You cannot easily chute/shoot with a rabbet. Rabbets are typically ground square with standard cambered to not leave track marks. Caveat: Some block planes have removable side plates. This can give you a little taste of standard action. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G262 Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 Thanks! This is helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Brendon_t said: I've never seen a rabbeting jack. LN and LV make one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G262 Posted February 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 https://www.lie-nielsen.com/product/low-angle-bench-planes/low-angle-jack-rabbet-plane?node=4167 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 I like my Stanley 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, Llama said: LN and LV make one. Good to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 LN also has a standard angle rabbeting jack, the carriage makers plane. It's in my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Wilkins Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 I wonder what the difference in use is between the low angle and regular rebate jacks are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 1 hour ago, C Shaffer said: I like my Stanley 10. I like my Stanley 92. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilgaron Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 Also of note: you can get a #5 jack plane for $50. You won't find a #10 for that, or if you do, it will probably be in especially sad shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted February 22, 2016 Report Share Posted February 22, 2016 I guess I found a treasure then. I picked one of three on eBay at the time all listed at 40ish with blemishes of no consequence. I am a user. That said, I don't use the 10 nearly as often as a 5 (which I picked up several at less than 30.) That brings my 5 and 10 to less than 100 with patience. I just know that a premium LN or LV is not the only option and am trying to open the conversation to broaden the scope of consideration. Richard's 92 is great for tiny tenons. The 10 or new rabbet jack are great for large format tenon. The blocks fall in between. If a two pass swipe does not bother you or if you don't raise panels by hand, I struggle to put out cash for the LN or LV unless you want a block plane. Then I am fan of both standard and skew. I don't see nearly as many good used rabbeting blocks. Someone else might see something I don't in the rabbet jacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 Useless your hand hewing timber frames a carriage maker's plane wouldn't be any more useful then a regular No. 5. Unless I was a collector, I couldn't justify the increase in cost. Now a rabbeting block plane or shoulder plane are definetly useful making/cleaning up rabbets and tenons. Dados too can be cut with a scribed line and shoulder plane of the right size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted February 23, 2016 Report Share Posted February 23, 2016 I was replicating 4 panel Colonial doors in an 1860. Full through tenon (pegged) in 4" stiles with 4", 6", and 10" rails. I don't see guy cutting rabbets this way anymore. There are too many better dedicated rabbet planes. I just like the width with big tenons. Really just depends on the project load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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