wtnhighlander Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 "Heavier than a dead minister"??? That is a new unit of mass for me! What region of the world are you it, that has such an interesting colloquialism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 19 minutes ago, Ibboykin said: heavier than a dead minister I've never heard this idiom. I tried a google search to find its origin but came up empty...one guess about a "priest" being a heavy mallet to kill fish...sounds like a stretch. Any ideas where it came from? I don't get the meaning at all. You're from Kentucky...the other few comments I found seemed to be from the southeast part of the country. One list in particular from North Carolina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibboykin Posted May 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 20 minutes ago, Eric. said: I've never heard this idiom. I tried a google search to find its origin but came up empty...one guess about a "priest" being a heavy mallet to kill fish...sounds like a stretch. Any ideas where it came from? I don't get the meaning at all. You're from Kentucky...the other few comments I found seemed to be from the southeast part of the country. One list in particular from North Carolina. Eric, I do live in Kentucky but I'm Mississippi born and bred. There is a great book you should get about Southern colloquialisms that even discusses origina. The book is titled: "Butter my Butt and call me a Biscuit". https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0740785672/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1495290868&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=butter+my+butt+and+call+me+a+biscuit&dpPl=1&dpID=6143vL4z8oL&ref=plSrch as to my minister saying, an ole Baptist minister carried so many secrets of his flock that at time of his death, he weighed a ton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 23 minutes ago, Ibboykin said: "Butter my Butt and call me a Biscuit". LOL Southerners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Yep, southerners colloquialisms are quite colorful. But " Butter my butt...." could get taken in a whole nuther direction these days ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 21, 2017 Report Share Posted May 21, 2017 LOL Southerners. Well, at least I 've heard that one before! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Posted May 24, 2017 Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 I owned one for many years and used it for cross-cutting. I don't think it's a real safe tool for anything else regardless of it's stated flexibility. If the tool can be setup so that it cross-cuts square, it's a great tool for rough or finish cross-cutting lumber. It has great capacity and the large table makes it easy to get larger boards onto the table for cutting. The main reason I got rid of mine was that it would never stay square for crosscuts and it took up a lot of space in my shop. Be careful though. Because the blade spins in the same direction as you are pulling the saw to cross-cut, the saw tends to want to shoot toward you while cutting. As long as you are controlled about the cut, it will not be a problem, but it's a little hard to get used to at first. Even though It's likely you can rotate the head horizontally or vertically 90 degrees for ripping and other possible operations I wouldn't try to use it for anything but cross-cutting. Those other operations just aren't safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Griffin Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 On 4/22/2017 at 7:00 PM, mdbuilder said: Yes, two! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel Griffin Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 am looking for a few parts in pic you can see its missing a few parts restored the motor runs like new very nice saw just missing a knob by handle and the measure strip at top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 Dewalt invented the radial arm saw. The heavy cast iron ones can make clean cuts and last forever. But the cheaper Crafstmen ones not so much. Black & Decker bought Dewalt, kept the name and sold the radial arm business. It's called " the original saw company " now. https://originalsaw.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 The Craftsman RAS, that I bought new in 1974, has a heavy, cast iron arm, and retains its accuracy, but in order to make sure it will make a perfect, square cut, I never change anything on it but the height of cut. I haven't adjusted it for over 20 years, and still call on it to make perfectly accurate shoulder cuts for tenons, and other such square cuts. One thing I like about the old Craftsman is the location of the switch. It's right under your thumb, after you grab the handle. I don't like to turn one on, and then reach for the handle. A friend gave me another, newer one that's not cast iron, and it's a piece of junk, but I do keep a dado stack on it for quick jobs that don't need to be pretty-like specialized roof ladders. I'll give it to someone for scrap metal if another old one, like my other one, ever comes up for sale for little or nothing. The newer one has enough flex in the arm to be scary, not enough mass in the motor to help fight grabbing, and I see why they get such a bad reputation. My old, heavy one, is not scary at all to operate. The old heavy, cast iron Dewalts, and newer Omga's are fine. I've never had my hands on one of the OSC ones, but am sure they're good. Stay away from anything that's not massively built. That one of Mikel's should be okay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
over40pirate Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 29 minutes ago, Tom King said: The Craftsman RAS, that I bought new in 1974, has a heavy, cast iron arm, and retains its accuracy, but in order to make sure it will make a perfect, square cut, I never change anything on it but the height of cut. I haven't adjusted it for over 20 years, and still call on it to make perfectly accurate shoulder cuts for tenons, and other such square cuts. One thing I like about the old Craftsman is the location of the switch. It's right under your thumb, after you grab the handle. I don't like to turn one on, and then reach for the handle. A friend gave me another, newer one that's not cast iron, and it's a piece of junk, but I do keep a dado stack on it for quick jobs that don't need to be pretty-like specialized roof ladders. I'll give it to someone for scrap metal if another old one, like my other one, ever comes up for sale for little or nothing. The newer one has enough flex in the arm to be scary, not enough mass in the motor to help fight grabbing, and I see why they get such a bad reputation. My old, heavy one, is not scary at all to operate. The old heavy, cast iron Dewalts, and newer Omga's are fine. I've never had my hands on one of the OSC ones, but am sure they're good. Stay away from anything that's not massively built. That one of Mikel's should be okay. If you think the 1974 Craftsman ras is a lot better than the newer one you are right. I've had both. A good Dewalt is even much better than the 1974 Craftsman. Day and night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 I'm sure it is. As long as I have something that works for what I want to do, I'm good, and this one has been paid for the last 44 years. My stuff gets moved every year or two, so the Craftsman is heavy enough to move. It's still on the 6 foot long stand, with castors, that I built for it the day I took it out of the box. I don't know how many times I've changed the 3/4 plywood top on it though-the one in the picture is at least 15 years old. I just use blocks of wood screwed to it for stops for multiple runs. There were something like 160 of this particular shoulder cut to make on this job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
over40pirate Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 By all means use the saw you have. I think it's one of last of the best CM ras's. You might Google, Emerson radial arm saw recall. They will send a post paid box, for you to return the motor, and send you a copy. For $100. Think, I'm going on my 16th return! Shop money! You can be sure, I had and used the same model saw you have until the DeWalt showed up, then got $100 for it. FYI. A more powerful Ras, doesn't try to self feed much at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted May 6, 2018 Report Share Posted May 6, 2018 I remember the recall, but I like this one fine. I don't have any reason to spend more money on another one. These days, I do so many different things, that this one might not get used for years at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew1 Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 Seems to be that these old tools are probably more accurate than some of today's miter saws. My dad has had one of the old craftsman, the one norm had, forever and still cuts perfect 90s and 45s. With that said I prefer the miter due to portability and size in my small shop as I try to work outside if ever possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibboykin Posted May 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 Let’s skip portability for a moment. Have you ever used a radial arm saw to cut dados? Something you can’t do with a miter saw. If a person has the room, the radial arm saw is a great addition. I love having both in my shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted May 26, 2018 Report Share Posted May 26, 2018 One of mine is set up just for cutting dadoes. I don't move the other one off of its perfect 90 degree setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 I've cut dadoes with my sliding miter saw before ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 Me too ! Series of closely spaced kerfs etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 I've used my sliding miter saw for dadoes too. Once. A jig/guide with a router is by far the easiest way to make good ones. I keep the POS 10" RAS for dadoes that don't have to be perfect, like roof ladders. If I'm working on a roof high off the ground, steep, or simply a pain otherwise, I'll make a roof ladder specifically for that job. I get a premium price for working on a roof, but requirements are still both safe, And comfortable. You can't do good work anywhere unless you can be comfortable, and take your time. With the RAS set up for it, it doesn't take long to make one. I don't want to trust screws alone, but with dadoes, they can be made strong, and still lightweight enough to handle. I'd probably just use the router jig, but someone gave me this RAS, and I tried it once, and decided to keep it for that purpose. It comes in handy for other carpentry jobs too, like making sawhorses, and various jobs that I would not have thought about using it for if it wasn't sitting there ready to go. I keep the stack on it set to fit 3/4 plywood, and use the same machine to thin down the ends of whatever is going in the dado, like the steps to a roof ladder made from dry 1" thick decking boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
over40pirate Posted May 27, 2018 Report Share Posted May 27, 2018 A router usually cuts cleaner dados than a saw blade. How much better is debatable. I find my dado set cuts very acceptable, dado, in my ts, or ras. Just much easier and faster in the ras. I find it faster than using a router and moving the guide each time. One advantage is having a ras, that isn't a pos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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