rodger. Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I like a thicker table top, and usually aim for a finished 5/4 or even 6/4 if the table is really large. The dining table i did last was about 38 by 96, and the top was 6/4 thick. Do a scale diagram, or use sketch up to get the dimensions you want before you start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 When you are going big, mahogany is a timeless choice. However if she prefers a lighter color maple is a great wood as well. Both are lifelong favorites. If you want to go homegrown exotic , curly maple fills the bill in that category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Ya if it's left to me I like the maple or mahogany look. I am still not sure if I want the opposite wood as an accent on the aprons or go one solid color for all. I think it could look cool but then I think it could also just look like a nightmare as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Ok also was told I need the bench like the photo. Is that the same just a smaller table? Maybe a couple more braces across towed the middle to hold the weight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Ok also was told I need the bench like the photo. Is that the same just a smaller table? Maybe a couple more braces across towed the middle to hold the weight? Pretty much.. You'll have to play with your design a bit to see what you want to do.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Walnut aprons would look good with maple or mahogany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Walnut aprons would look good with maple or mahogany. Ooo ya walnut would look nice. Hopefully I can get some good pricing on BF for these woods. On that topic .. What is a good price to pay per BF for maple, mahogany, and walnut? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 That depends on where you are and what kind of supplier you have. I've been buying from one of my sources since I was 15. Now I get end collum prices no matter how much I buy. So my sense of fair prices is kinda skewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 That depends on where you are and what kind of supplier you have. I've been buying from one of my sources since I was 15. Now I get end collum prices no matter how much I buy. So my sense of fair prices is kinda skewed. Oh wow. You are lucky to have that connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Be warned: mahogany is a bit on the soft side and won't take a beating without dings and dents. But would be the prettiest out of the three options of mahogany, maple, oak. My opinion, of course. I agree with Pug about the thickness...6/4 minimum for a table that size. 8/4 would be preferable. At my dealer, 8/4 prices: Hard maple: $6.00/bf Red oak: 5.50/bf White: 7.00/bf (flat) 9.00/bf (quarter) Hond. Mahogany: 8.50/bf Walnut: 10.75/bf Walnut 4/4: 7.90/bf ...just for a general guide. Prices will vary depending on location and your dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Be warned: mahogany is a bit on the soft side and won't take a beating without dings and dents. But would be the prettiest out of the three options of mahogany, maple, oak. My opinion, of course. I agree with Pug about the thickness...6/4 minimum for a table that size. 8/4 would be preferable. At my dealer, 8/4 prices: Hard maple: $6.00/bf Red oak: 5.50/bf White: 7.00/bf (flat) 9.00/bf (quarter) Hond. Mahogany: 8.50/bf Walnut: 10.75/bf Walnut 4/4: 7.90/bf ...just for a general guide. Prices will vary depending on location and your dealer. Thanks for the heads up!! So when you say 8/4 minimum. Is that 8/4 then milled or 8/4 after milling? Thanks for the prices just to give me an idea of what to expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 8/4 before milling.. You're going to lose a little but, ultimately end up with a thicker table. I agree that the thicker would be better.. Keeping it as close to 8/4 as possible.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Ok also was told I need the bench like the photo. Is that the same just a smaller table? Maybe a couple more braces across towed the middle to hold the weight? Did a bench a little while ago, check out the journals section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Did a bench a little while ago, check out the journals section. Thanks will do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewyo Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Not to hijack, but for comparison my prices per BF for 4/4 are; walnut $10 Mahogany 10.06 Wh Oak 5.83 hickory 4.98 cherry 11.00 maple 5.53 knotty alder 2.69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Not to hijack, but for comparison my prices per BF for 4/4 are; walnut $10 Mahogany 10.06 Wh Oak 5.83 hickory 4.98 cherry 11.00 maple 5.53 knotty alder 2.69 Yuck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Yeah, those are some nasty prices. $11 for 4/4 cherry is criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Walnut has skyrocketed in my area. I used to pay 5 per bf, and not its up over 8.50 for 4/4. Ash has also taken a jump from 2.50 to 4.00 for 4/4 per bf. Cherry has come down however to about 4.25 for 4/4 90/50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Walnut has skyrocketed everywhere because it's back in vogue, and the supply is down from shipping so much of it to China so they can build IKEA garbage and sell it back to us. There are a couple other dealers in the St. Louis metro area who say they can't even place an order for it. My dealer is sitting on approximately 80 logs at the moment. Can't wait to sniff around in that pile once it's milled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewyo Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Yeah, those are some nasty prices. $11 for 4/4 cherry is criminal. Yeah, it's the small market and costly shipping I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Prices vary a lot by region. The closest mill to me carries mostly red & white oak, but BF prices fall in the $1.50 - $2.50 range, depending on grade. The offer cherry as well, in the $3.50 range, last time I checked. Walnut isn't even on their list. I managed to buy about 100 BF of air dried walnut from a hobby sawyer last year at $0.75 / BF, but it is pretty gnarly stuff. Pretty grain, but not many large clear pieces. Best suited for boxes and such, not so much for furniture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwalter5110 Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 My mom used to work in the office of a huge lumber company in Pittsburgh. I used to get domestic wood for next to nothing. Less than $2.00 bf for cherry. They sold their company and at the end of this month everyone is losing their jobs. My mom doesn't care too much, honestly, I think I am more disappointed than she is lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 There is a MASSIVE lumber dealer about 2 hours from my home on the other side of toronto. Their prices are incredible, and if I need a lot of material I make the drive out there. I bought 6/4 walnut for 5.35 a bf there last year. I recently bought 12/4 ash there for less per bf than I pay for 4/4 locally. But, as the drive is so long, it's only worth it if I buy a lot or need something I cannot buy here. I asked my local guy why the prices are so spiking on most items and he said it mostly due to the value of the canadian dollar. The loonie has taken a beating lately, and I know they ship quite a bit from the USA. With oil prices dropping, I was hoping for a break on the prices as the cost to ship should be much lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 I asked my local guy why the prices are so spiking on most items and he said it mostly due to the value of the canadian dollar. The loonie has taken a beating lately, and I know they ship quite a bit from the USA. That wouldn't explain the dramatic spike in walnut prices relative to prices on everything else. If it were due to the value of the loonie, the prices on ALL domestic (USA) species should spike. From what I can gather, it's a supply and demand issue. I suppose it doesn't matter either way...the end result is the same...we have to build with something else or go broke buying walnut. I mean why couldn't poplar prices skyrocket instead? That would be ideal for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 Haha. Yes I would definitely take a poplar skyrocket over walnut. It would be sad to see but I'd get over it as fast as I could get my walnut to the register. I do think the shipping to China for cheap ikea crap is on of the main reasons most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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