Bklynjames Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 I have purchased a few things from http://kingfisherwoodworks.com/ and they do a majority of their custom work by hand. Rasps, files, planes, and pull planes. Working with something up to 9' is mind boggling to me and thought I might be able to spin it. So I was looking at a few lathes and cam across a few I thought might be good. Shop fox, grizzly, craftsman, and delta. All around 500$ and they can be extended. Don't mind spending the extra money now for something better. So I won't have to go out and buy another one in a few years. I have a 20' long mounted bench in my garage to work with. So extensions are an option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 13 minutes ago, Bklynjames said: I have purchased a few things from http://kingfisherwoodworks.com/ and they do a majority of their custom work by hand. Rasps, files, planes, and pull planes. Working with something up to 9' is mind boggling to me and thought I might be able to spin it. So I was looking at a few lathes and cam across a few I thought might be good. Shop fox, grizzly, craftsman, and delta. All around 500$ and they can be extended. Don't mind spending the extra money now for something better. So I won't have to go out and buy another one in a few years. I have a 20' long mounted bench in my garage to work with. So extensions are an option Can they be extended multiple times? still have doubts about the sort of lengths you are discussing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bklynjames Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 I'm coming to the conclusion you are right. The smaller staffs like the 3' Hanbo's might work. Im not sure how many extensions you can put on a lathe. They would have to be secured in a way to reduce/remove vibrations and stuff. Now would you consider spinning something of that size to be dangerous? But onto the Lathe, what does everyone like? Brand names, things to look out for? So Delta recommends no more than two extensions for the Delta Industrial 46-460 12-1/2-Inch Variable-Speed Midi Lathe. With a total of 67 1/2" length bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmotjr Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 The 12" Commander lathe from Penn State Industries is marketed as unlimited number of extensions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 19 hours ago, Bklynjames said: I'm coming to the conclusion you are right. The smaller staffs like the 3' Hanbo's might work. Im not sure how many extensions you can put on a lathe. They would have to be secured in a way to reduce/remove vibrations and stuff. Now would you consider spinning something of that size to be dangerous? But onto the Lathe, what does everyone like? Brand names, things to look out for? So Delta recommends no more than two extensions for the Delta Industrial 46-460 12-1/2-Inch Variable-Speed Midi Lathe. With a total of 67 1/2" length bed. The challenge is if you pin a 12', 1" diameter staff between a headstock and tail stock, the staff will have an appreciable sag in the middle under its own weight. Once you get it spinning, the sag will become more prominent. The staff will also not be very stiff, so when you bring your chisel in to carve the staff will effectively be irregular shaped and it flex away instead of getting cut. I think 67 1/2" is already quite long, but will probably still be doable. Beyond that, I have doubts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wtnhighlander Posted January 1, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 You would need to use multiple "steady rest" fixtures to support a spindle that long on the lathe. I'm sure it could be done, I just think it is not the best technique for the object you want to produce. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, wtnhighlander said: You would need to use multiple "steady rest" fixtures to support a spindle that long on the lathe. I'm sure it could be done, I just think it is not the best technique for the object you want to produce. Agreed. I think your idea of using a spokeshave is much more practical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bklynjames Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 Sorry for the late reply but it seems I have to agree with you on the spoke shave. So it seems there are other enthusiasts out there looking to do the same type of work. From what I have seen in the few youtube videos I have seen. people start out with a squared off blank, and cut it on a table saw into an octogon shape. Then either sand or shave the balnk down to the much needed diameter. Now here is my question. How accurate can you get it to where you have a 1" diameter? Is this something where I would need to use a caliper in order to keep it at said diameter? Sounds slightly painful when you get over the 3-4' mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmotjr Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 I highly doubt the guy who gets bonked in the head with it will notice if you are off by a 1/16" or so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted February 13, 2017 Report Share Posted February 13, 2017 With some practice it's amazing how uniform doing work by eye can be. First few might not be beautiful but I bet they would still put a hurtin on someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 If making more than 1 staff, I would cut a 1" (or whatever diameter you need) go/no-gauge, rather than using calipers. Multiple gauges, if the staff tapers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bklynjames Posted February 14, 2017 Report Share Posted February 14, 2017 It's quite funny how it ranges from Japanese to Chinese Martial Arts. The Japanese side of things would be extremely precise. Where the Chinese side wouldn't matter if it was off by a little. But yeah, I would like to make a few of these myself, starting off with a less expensive blank and once I have an idea of where I would like to go. Move more towards a contact grade Hickory. Like an Appalachian Hickory, white oak, or something similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Posted May 31, 2017 Report Share Posted May 31, 2017 By now you've probably bought the lathe. If not, though and depending on what you want to spend, the Nova Comet II midi seems to be a good lathe. It's the one I bought and have been using it since I started turning bowls about 6 months ago. I'm sure there are better lathes. I'm also sure that one day in the not too distant future, I will want to turn a bowl larger than its capacity, which is 12". Unfortunately it doesn't allow outboard turning, so 12" is its true maximum diameter. So far, though, it has worked well for me. I also bought Easy Wood tools since I didn't want to go through the process of acquiring sharpening skills and equipment to sharpen gouges, etc. I know it's not impossible to do this, but just wanted to concentrate on turning. The Comet II and the EasyWood tools have allowed me to do that (most likely with more sanding than sharp steel tools would require, but . . .). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Maclennan Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 Great Post and Old Post Indeed! Till useful for beginners. I think the above members are more expert than me. But In my real experience, I used RIKON 70-100 12-by-16-Inch almost 2 years with no issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bankstick Posted July 1, 2018 Report Share Posted July 1, 2018 If you buy HF lathes or other power tools, check on the warranty. I bought a Rikon 70-050VS which has been replaced. It has a five year warranty plus got it at a great price to move it out of the warehouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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