Pwk5017 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 I am out of touch with live edge prices, and green lumber is compounding my current issue. The slabs are 24"+/- wide and 12' long sawn at 10/4. Pretty good looking material that i am interested in. Unfortunately the guy wanted $15/bdft. I wasnt sure how much market knowledge he had, but i calmly explained $15bdft for green material is beyond insane. Even at $5, i dont know how interested i am... They have very subtle curves, and live edge or no live edge, a bookmatch could make a great table top a couple years down the road. Anyone buy or sell slabs or green walnut recently? Im buying KD FAS or Face and better 8/4 walnut locally for $7-8 a bdft. Right off the bat, i think $3.50-$4.50 is a fair price for green material, but even typing that sounds absurd. I remember two years ago i was buying KD material delivered to my door for that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Wait green as in not dried at all? Local guy here http://www.logs-to-lumber.com/big-live-edge-slabs/ he sells dried lumber though. I bought some small stuff from Fromona he charged $3.25 BF dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dknapp34 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 I recently bought some really nice quality green walnut slabs 2" thick, 18" wide, 9' long for $60/slab, which comes out to about $2.20/bd ft. Even $5/bd ft seems pretty high for green material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 Slab pricing is not the same as lumber pricing. If you want lumber you'll pay lumber prices. You want slabs? Double it in my area. I routinely see green walnut slabs from 15 at the ugly sap wood spectrum to 25-30$/bf in clear slab form. You're paying a premium for it being big and continuous. If you don't need that, don't pay it. I have seen a few slabs I would have bought and green, they sell in hours. Again. My local market may not be yours but I don't know of 1 Sawyer who would even return an email from someone wanting to negotiate on the price when there are full price buyers a few inches down the inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keggers Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 It costs less for a sawyer to cut "slabs" than it does to trim the slab into boards. The only difference between a slab and a board is the bark. What the man is asking for his walnut is way too high in my opinion - especially for green wood. I wouldn't think of charging someone that much money. Of course, in Missouri, we have lots of walnut. I guess there are sawyers in certain areas of the country getting high prices for their slabs because there are people willing to pay their price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Don't buy green slabs of anything at that price. You will end up with a self-forming canoe. Prices like that are somewhat expected for dried slabs that are more or less flat. But thick slabs take a loooooong time to dry, even with circulating air or a solar kiln. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwk5017 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Yeah, the price for Slabs is kinda bass ackwards. Less time to cut, not graded lumber, rarely properly dried, the list goes on and on. Owell, let those dawyers make hay while the sun is shining. That market is gonna fade eventually and they will be out of luck. When he told me the price per slab and I did the math, I informed him with a smirk that he was asking $15 per bdft for green lumber. I then told him I'm not trying to insult him, but that was absolutely asinine. Anyways, it ended with him asking what I thought was fair, and I said even for $5 a bdft I probably wouldn't be interested. He said he could do $5, but I still don't think that's fair for me. That's why I started the thread. I don't mind buying up the whole log and taking the time to stack and dry it for a year or two, but $5 a bdft for green stuff is insane. Walnut is insane, in general. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 That’s still $300 per slab, green and like Ross said, you have a sight unseen, mail order bride! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 13 hours ago, Pwk5017 said: He said he could do $5, What he REALLY said was he had no problem overcharging you by $10/bf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwk5017 Posted November 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 7 hours ago, Jfitz said: What he REALLY said was he had no problem overcharging you by $10/bf. Haha it was a strange call in general. So you quoted me one price and then discounted it 70% off within the matter of seconds? Wtf... i buy a lot of wood and sell some, so I am pretty good with market price etc, but green lumber is something I've never dabbled in. As much as I do want two of these slabs, I think I'm going to pass. I just don't know where I'm going to properly store two 12' lengths at that width. They will need leveled platforms, tons of weight on top, air circulation and on and on and on. Not to mention I was thinking they might be dry in 1.5 years in my basement. You guys have me thinking at this width, it might be 2-3 years before I'm touching these boards. No thanks, they aren't that special. If they were 30"+ wide with some crotch figure or curl, then I would go through the trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted November 20, 2017 Report Share Posted November 20, 2017 15 hours ago, Pwk5017 said: Haha it was a strange call in general. So you quoted me one price and then discounted it 70% off within the matter of seconds? Wtf... i buy a lot of wood and sell some, so I am pretty good with market price etc, but green lumber is something I've never dabbled in. As much as I do want two of these slabs, I think I'm going to pass. I just don't know where I'm going to properly store two 12' lengths at that width. They will need leveled platforms, tons of weight on top, air circulation and on and on and on. Not to mention I was thinking they might be dry in 1.5 years in my basement. You guys have me thinking at this width, it might be 2-3 years before I'm touching these boards. No thanks, they aren't that special. If they were 30"+ wide with some crotch figure or curl, then I would go through the trouble. Cremona gets lumber dry a heck of a lot faster than people say he should. I'd say that he isn't drying it to EMC except I've bought some wood from him and he's usually below my shops EMC. I'd also say it's been drying longer but he videos and posts every piece he mills. The situation seems like your dealing with someone that doesn't know what's going on, I'd pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the tree guy Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 anyone interested on mahogany logs im in florida and we just cut down 12 large trees I have a lot og logs in big diameter and also med diameter and longer not up on the lingo here but I know its good wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatCharlieDude Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bill the tree guy said: anyone interested on mahogany logs im in florida and we just cut down 12 large trees I have a lot og logs in big diameter and also med diameter and longer not up on the lingo here but I know its good wood I would love some bowl blanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the tree guy Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 how big ive got some 50 to 65 inch down to 8 to10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatCharlieDude Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, Bill the tree guy said: how big ive got some 50 to 65 inch down to 8 to10 I could use either. 10 inches is my size limit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill the tree guy Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 10x10x10 ?? if you pay shipping .$12.00 per blank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatCharlieDude Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Bill the tree guy said: 10x10x10 ?? if you pay shipping .$12.00 per blank Sent you a PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Posted December 1, 2017 Report Share Posted December 1, 2017 I didn't see this thread when it was posted. I'm in shock that anyone would ask $15/bf for green walnut. Like, I can just go get it for free from everywhere, and pay to cut it and dry myself. If I had to take a guess, $0.50/bf. I get that a tree has value, but when you buy from a lumber mill/hardwood place for a high price, you are paying the work that it took to get that wood to you in good condition. Maybe if I lived in a place where walnut isn't plentiful, though, I could see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg M Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 Around here people are trying to sell the walnut LOGS for $5+ a board foot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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