Popular Post TheAverageCraftsman Posted February 18, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 So, not really a woodworking project but I know a lot of us ponder the best ways to heat/cool our shop. When it got really cold after Christmas I decided I'd had enough with crappy wall and space heaters and decided to take the plunge with a mini split. I was able to do 90% of the install myself and hired an HVAC tech do the final connections. Hope you enjoy the video! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 Nice job on the video! 1 hour ago, mat60 said: Nice install. I was kind of surprised you didn't run the hot wires to the 20 amp breaker while it was out of the box.. Much safer. Matt since he had shut off power to the sub panel why would it not be safe? Did I miss something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted February 18, 2018 Report Share Posted February 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, mat60 said: No.. I guess its fine but I just feel a lot better running the wires to the breaker while its out. There is another reason but Id rather not say. No worries I actually do it that way myself primarily because it think it's easier was just curious on the safety aspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAverageCraftsman Posted February 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 5 hours ago, mat60 said: No.. I guess its fine but I just feel a lot better running the wires to the breaker while its out. There is another reason but Id rather not say. I had the breaker at the main panel off and this panel was off. Were you referring to just holding the breaker in my hands and inserting the wires and then putting it in the slot? If so, it never really crossed my mind. Never seen anyone do it like before. What's the other reason you'd rather not say and why would you rather not say it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 I like to have two hands on the screwdriver while I'm tightening the lug. I used to have an Inspector that carried screwdrivers in his pocket, and would check every screw to see how tight it was. I didn't want him to be able to help me tighten a screw anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 minute ago, TheAverageCraftsman said: Were you referring to just holding the breaker in my hands and inserting the wires and then putting it in the slot? If so, it never really crossed my mind. Never seen anyone do it like before. Yes I was but nothing wrong with the way you and do it . I don't mind installing the ground and neutral wire on the bars off to the sides in the box but for some reason it just seems more comfortable to me to wire the breaker before I install it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 12 minutes ago, Tom King said: I like to have two hands on the screwdriver while I'm tightening the lug. I used to have an Inspector that carried screwdrivers in his pocket, and would check every screw to see how tight it was. I didn't want him to be able to help me tighten a screw anywhere. I have no problem and don't need two hands on a screwdriver to get the lug tight.. Id break the breaker if I did that with two hands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 I can feel the torque calibration in my wrists better with both hands, and the breaker fixed. I don't want to overtorque them, but that Inspector carried the proper sized SnapOn screwdrivers, and used both hands. He liked it when I handed him a SnapOn 1/4" breaker bar with short extension, and Hex socket to check the main lugs with. I don't know if he started carrying one of those or not. He never bothered to check behind me again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 59 minutes ago, Tom King said: I can feel the torque calibration in my wrists better with both hands, and the breaker fixed. I don't want to overtorque them, but that Inspector carried the proper sized SnapOn screwdrivers, and used both hands. He liked it when I handed him a SnapOn 1/4" breaker bar with short extension, and Hex socket to check the main lugs with. I don't know if he started carrying one of those or not. He never bothered to check behind me again. My dad wired massive panels in substations for a living. When he shows up to do work on anything electrical for me the tools he brings are by far the most interesting part. I don't even know how to describe them but the one that interested me the most was a flat head screw driver that held screws with out magnetism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan G Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 18 hours ago, TheAverageCraftsman said: What's the other reason you'd rather not say and why would you rather not say it? Very Mysterious....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Chestnut said: My dad wired massive panels in substations for a living. When he shows up to do work on anything electrical for me the tools he brings are by far the most interesting part. I don't even know how to describe them but the one that interested me the most was a flat head screw driver that held screws with out magnetism. I have some of those. They make them for Phillips too. Klein also makes ones for the weird shaped slots too (forget what they are called), and it was a good day when they started making those. Otherwise, neither a straight, or Phillips fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankstick Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 I have seen some screwdrivers that had a spring steel clip that fit over the screw head. Can't remember the brand or where I saw them. Anyone know about them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted February 19, 2018 Report Share Posted February 19, 2018 Klein makes several different variations. http://www.kleintools.com/catalog/screw-holding/2-phillips-screw-holding-screwdriver The only time I can think of, when it's really nice to have one, is putting a ground wire pigtail in that has to be screwed into the back of a metal outlet box. The screw is short, and it's a real aggravating balancing act with small pieces otherwise. The screw holding screwdriver holds the whole little assembly, and makes it an easy, one handed job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankstick Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 I used to work in R&D for two appliance manufacturers. I used a piece of masking tape to wrap around the screw head and the screwdriver. Start the screw and when it is snug, a gentle pull does the trick. Just make sure that you don't put a lot of tape on the screw head- just enough to hold it in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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