JohnG Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 They just give the illusion of security. Like TSA approved padlocks. When it’s easy and cheap to buy your way past something, it offers nothing against anyone who is the slightest bit interested in getting past it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonPacific Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 5:47 PM, JohnG said: They just give the illusion of security. Like TSA approved padlocks. When it’s easy and cheap to buy your way past something, it offers nothing against anyone who is the slightest bit interested in getting past it. It's the same security that a cheap masterlock or most door locks (which can be trivially opened with a rake you can buy off amazon for $2) gives you. Keeps out the mostly-honest but curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legenddc Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 8:39 PM, Mark J said: Actually, now that I found out you can remove these screws with a standard blade screw driver, I would argue they don't make sense anywhere. I feel like they sell the security bits in that red case with 40 of them at ever car parts store, never mind the million places online. On 1/27/2022 at 9:20 PM, BonPacific said: It's the same security that a cheap masterlock or most door locks (which can be trivially opened with a rake you can buy off amazon for $2) gives you. Keeps out the mostly-honest but curious. We used to just use a credit card to get into my in-laws lake house every time we forgot the key. My mother in law was concerned and wanted to put a deadbolt on that door. I suggest since the top half of it was glass a thief would just break the glass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 No lock or trick fastener will stop a determined thief from opening any container that is possible to open. Fortunately, most thieves aren't all that "determined". The fact that they steal at all is a reasonable indicator that they aren't fond of hard work... IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 8:25 AM, legenddc said: We used to just use a credit card to get into my in-laws lake house every time we forgot the key. My mother in law was concerned and wanted to put a deadbolt on that door. I suggest since the top half of it was glass a thief would just break the glass. This is where you use a double cylinder deadbolt. So long as they aren’t in the habit of leaving the key in the interior cylinder, that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonPacific Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 11:29 AM, JohnG said: This is where you use a double cylinder deadbolt. So long as they aren’t in the habit of leaving the key in the interior cylinder, that is. Double deadbolts are a fire hazard. Not usually a good idea, and banned by some counties/cities for this reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 4:43 PM, BonPacific said: Double deadbolts are a fire hazard. Not usually a good idea, and banned by some counties/cities for this reason. Often the restrictions on them do not apply to doors with windows. Sure, you need to be smart about where they are used, but that’s the homeowner’s decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby W Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 You can buy a set of bits that include the security Torx bits at Harbor Freight for about $10. Has lots of other bits in the set too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeff70 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 If you're hooking up your new Rigid Vac to your hand tools what hose adapters will you go with, that is if your current ones won't work. For me that was the biggest hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 No, I'm not hooking up any tools. I principally use the vac to clean up around the lathe. I have to say the 16 gal Rigid is quite powerful. There's more airflow and It definitely sucks harder than the Vacmaster I replaced. In fact I wish the Rigid had high & low settings. I think using it with a ROS could present some problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjeff70 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 3:13 PM, Mark J said: No, I'm not hooking up any tools. I principally use the vac to clean up around the lathe. I have to say the 16 gal Rigid is quite powerful. There's more airflow and It definitely sucks harder than the Vacmaster I replaced. In fact I wish the Rigid had high & low settings. I think using it with a ROS could present some problems. It is powerful. Yea dust collection is not very good on hand tools but what is the alternative? I used it on a miter saw and a track saw. Track saw is okay but the miter saw (Dewalt compound miter) is terrible, almost worthless. It's not the vac it's the tools themselves... as you all know. Gotta mask up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 I'm thinking that this vacuum will pull a ROS too hard against the wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/31/2022 at 4:13 PM, Mark J said: In fact I wish the Rigid had high & low settings https://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-2-1-2-in-Hose-Grip-Accessory-with-Bleeder-Valve-for-RIDGID-Wet-Dry-Shop-Vacuums-VT2505/204220709 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Thanks @JohnG, that may actually be worth buying. I'm not going to put my coat on right now, but next time I'm by that way.... First world problem, but it's actually hard to vac up the shavings if the vacuum wants to suck up the floor mats, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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