Popular Post Coop Posted June 26, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 @RichardA shared this with me and I don’t want it to stop with me so I thought I would share with others. Sometimes we loose sight of the history of our freedom. Enjoy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 Wow @Coop that is powerful! I love history and can never learn enough, thank Rick and thank you for passing it along I’ll be sure to share it with my patriot friends 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 It's a shame schools have changed so much since I was in Elementary and High School (1956 to 1968). Now I know that history might carry more weight in Virginia than a lot of newer States, but we had that drummed into us from probably the 5th Grade on up. I can't say the number of times teachers in different grades went over that with us, and I'm sure I gave a report on it probably more than once. Also, every morning, from 1st Grade through graduating High School everyone stood with their hands on their heart, and pledged allegiance to the flag. The commentator in that video looked like it was the first time he'd heard that history. It made me wonder how much American History he'd ever heard or read. These days, most who claim to be Patriots are at the other extreme. I don't trust anyone who wears that self appointed badge on their sleeves. I have known some real ones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 I agree @Tom King, I listen more to people who have laced up the boots and picked up a rifle than other people 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted June 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 The “I’d die on my feet than live on my knees” and the bodies holding up the flag impressed me. I’ve never heard either of these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 Any version of history varies some depending on who wrote it. That quote has been claimed by a lot of different people from Greeks to Spanish. There was a play, Cato, or something like that, that many quotes came out of. That might have been one of them. It is claimed by some historians that the men at Valley Forge put it on to entertain themselves, but that wasn't written down anywhere back then. It was very popular around the time of the Revolution. One quote I remember from it is: "I regret that I have only one life to give...." I'm not downplaying the significance of the history at all, but it's a REally Big flag, and doubtful it was held up only by men, dead or alive. https://www.si.edu/spotlight/flag-day/banner-facts The Smithsonian still has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 Most of us older folks (or younger sports fans) are familiar with the first of the four verses. The full lyrics are often an eye opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legenddc Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 I haven't had a chance to watch the video yet but wanted to comment they still do the pledge in school and the Smithsonian does still have the flag and it is massive in person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BonPacific Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 Always remember that reaction videos are a piece of entertainment. The performers get clicks/money largely based on how surprised and excited they are. Don't believe everything you see on the internet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 Every Historian I've heard talk embellishes the story told. This was an important story though. This looks like a pretty legit account: https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/separating-fact-from-fiction-about-the-star-spangled-banner This is pretty good too. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/war-1812/battles/fort-mchenry#:~:text=In the early morning of,Meteor%2C Devastation%2C and Aetna. of particular interest in that last link is the list of casualties: UNITED STATES 28 4 killed 24 wounded 0 missing & captured ESTIMATED CASUALTIES 29 UNITED STATES 28 UNITED KINGDOM 1 UNITED KINGDOM 1 0 killed 1 wounded 0 missing & captured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 27, 2022 Report Share Posted June 27, 2022 Those two link examples posted above are pretty typical of written history. I thought it funny that in the first link it said Key as likely 6 to 8 miles away, and then on a map in the second link it showed that he was 2-1/2 miles away. I've found with history, you have to read several books on any particular event/subject to get a fairly clear picture. I wish we'd had the internet when I was in school. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 National anthems are sure viewed differently on the 2 sides of the 49th. Mainly cause ours kinda sucks. See, point proven. If I was in the US I'd have already been pelted with 3 day old poutine for expressing such sentiments 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted June 28, 2022 Report Share Posted June 28, 2022 The title "Patriots" was thrown out earlier. We heard from a Real one today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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