Seeking advice on mitered edging of table top

[BillyJack]

This wa a situation where a miter saw could have been easily used rather than pulling hand tools. To each his own…

Von took on this challenge. He may try it again or look for the easiest way..

[Tom King]

On 8/27/2023 at 11:38 PM, G Ragatz said:

I'm fortunate that I can still see a marking knife line as well as a pencil line (most of the time). Given that, why would I ever choose to use a pencil instead of a marking knife?

• the pencil line is always going to be wider and so, less precise than the knife line, as a visual guide for my cutting/milling
• the knife line gives me a physical indexing point if I need it when I'm working with a hand saw or a chisel
• the knife line does help with tear-out, even if you're using the "right blade"
• I don't need to sharpen my marking knives nearly as often as I need to sharpen my pencils

I almost always use a pencil, but I'm very particular about the pencil.  A no.4 Eagle Mirado/Mikado will leave a line as fine as any marking knife.  They stopped making them in the mid 1980's, but I have accumulated more than a lifetime supply.  I only use a knife if there will be a tearout problem.

My problem with a marking knife is in situations like marking the second part of a dovetail where you need to leave the line.  It's harder to leave a scribed line than a pencil line.

[BillyJack]

Bottom line here is Von’s  thoughts on whether he wants to continue the the  hand tool path or try a power tool next time. If you don’t trust your mite4 say, maybe a sled for the table saw. 
 

 

[Tpt life]

I don’t find sleds to be any use at most table sizes. This was a question about an edge. This is more about taking the tool to the work for most tables, without a commercial set up. I think this is how we have been coming to different approaches. 

[BillyJack]

On 8/28/2023 at 10:10 AM, Tpt life said:

I don’t find sleds to be any use at most table sizes. This was a question about an edge. This is more about taking the tool to the work for most tables, without a commercial set up. I think this is how we have been coming to different approaches. 

You’re on a hobby forum and a lot of hobby woodworker chose a miter sled. Many do not trust or know how to setup a miter saw. I didn’t have a miter sled till just a month or so ago and don’t need it, but to remove some material I decided to make one. ..

 

I was a commercial woodworker for 29 year. What is a commercial setup?

 

I tried to get Jakobe furniture to look into this , but was ignored.

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[Tpt life]

Commercial setup:

For an edge miter, a sliding table would work awesomely well. Most of those are in shops that use them to make full incomes. 

[BillyJack]

On 8/28/2023 at 11:28 AM, Tpt life said:

Commercial setup:

For an edge miter, and sliding table would work awesomely well. Most of those are in shops that use them to make full incomes. 

For a production shop we will all probably use a miter saw, but this is a professional/hobby forum and you’re going to get a variety of answers depending on how they feel it fits their needs. 
 

I have 10+ poster frames to make for my rec room. Normally I would use the miter saw, but because I now have the slider for the table saw, I’ll use it.

[curlyoak]

Much easier 3 sided. But sometimes it is required on all sides.  I would start on 1 long leg. But first I would cut 2 short pieces with a 45 on 1 end. Then clamp them on the exact position, and nibble away on the long leg. My cuts are on a sliding jig on the table saw. I'd want the work near the saw. I get the size close, then cutting a tiny amount then see if it fits. And do the same on the remaining pieces. You cant cut it twice and it is still too short!

Cutting out the plywood I would make an effort to be as true and square as I possible. The better I cut the plywood, the faster and better is the outcome. I have an incra 5000 and that is what I would use here. Very accurate.

[Von]

All - I greatly appreciate the insights. I am indeed a hobbyist and am immensely enjoy learning from all of you. And because I'm a hobbyist, I will sometimes take paths that are of most interest to me rather than being most efficient or effective, so please don't take any disrespect if I don't seem to follow your advice. I don't intend my path to improvement to be a straight line and will chase shiny objects or squirrels from time to time. Again, thank you. Von

[Chet]

This started out as Von needing some help with edging a top and the last few pages have been more about whether some ones pencil is better the some one else's marking knife and which one is more useful.  It is an individuals choice and what makes them comfortable in the task at hand.

I am asking everyone, before this gets totally out of hand to get back to the original conversation.  I don't really have the time or desire to have to delete posts because they are starting to get to off target.  So lets try to get back on the OP's subject.

Thanks,