roughsawn Posted September 7, 2023 Report Share Posted September 7, 2023 Any of you guys have one? How do you like it? It's that model, or a Grizzly 0858 getting ordered in the next day or two. Parallelogram, 8" helical cutterhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted September 14, 2023 Report Share Posted September 14, 2023 Late response but i don't think you can go wrong with either. Did you make your choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted September 17, 2023 Report Share Posted September 17, 2023 Might have gone with the G0490X as it is on sale right now(?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughsawn Posted September 20, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2023 Going to order the Laguna. Grizzly will not deliver because of the size. I need a forklift to unload it. Obviously I don't have a forklift. I'll probably order from Acme, have it delivered to their warehouse in Plymouth, and have them load it on my trailer. I can then lift it off with my overhead hoist. Grizzly has not been very accommodating. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted September 20, 2023 Report Share Posted September 20, 2023 That's really odd that grizzly can't coordinate a freight truck with a lift gate. Acme is pretty good to deal with. I bought my PJ882hh there and they loaded it on my trailer and didn't even comment on how sketchy it ended up being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted September 20, 2023 Report Share Posted September 20, 2023 My Grizzly was scheduled with a lift gate. Maybe that is location specific? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted September 20, 2023 Report Share Posted September 20, 2023 On 9/20/2023 at 9:49 AM, Chestnut said: That's really odd that grizzly can't coordinate a freight truck with a lift gate. Agreed. Grizzly customer service is typically regarded well. It’s usually a problem with the freight companies ignoring instructions/requests rather than with the vendor working with the customer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted September 20, 2023 Report Share Posted September 20, 2023 I'm surprised grizzly didn't offer you loading doc service where you pic it up at a warehouse. I did that a couple times years ago. Having said that Acme is top notch and has earned my repeat business many times over the years. I am currently waiting on my upgraded lathe purchase which they knocked $200 off during a sale 6 weeks after I purchased but before it was delivered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughsawn Posted September 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 4 different customer service reps told me that even tho the delivery truck might have a lift gate, they wouldn't use it because of the size of the crate. It has to be delivered to a business with a loading dock, and unloaded with a forklift. They kept telling me...it is their policy. It has to be unloaded with a forklift. Burnsville is the closest dealer. And they don't have one, they'd have to order it. That's 75? miles away. Just as soon not drive thru or around Murderapolis to go pick one up. When I bought my Laguna bandsaw from Acme last year, I just drove to their warehouse and picked it up. The last time I asked them about the jointer, they said it would work the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark J Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 Was the Grizzly a particularly large jointer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted September 21, 2023 Report Share Posted September 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, Mark J said: Was the Grizzly a particularly large jointer? No i checked the model and it's a pretty standard sized 8" jointer. Bit smaller than the PJ882HH. I wonder if the freight carriers have gotten sick of all the absurd requests upon delivery so they just started saying no to Grizzly. At 487lbs it's pretty light. This is going to hurt grizzly as if they can't deliver tools like this to people's homes it's going to cut into sales. That delivery and their customer service were their main selling points. Oh that's silly the 0858 is too big and heavy for lift gate but THIS sop fox at pretty much the same size and weight isn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughsawn Posted September 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2023 Ya, their reply was always, no so much the weight, but the size of the crate. I told them if they can't deliver to a residence, advertise to commercial businesses only. No one has a forklift just sitting around in their garage. I really had my heart set on that model. Been researching it for a year. Set up videos saved, and all that good stuff. And yes, I've had 3 other pieces of Grizzly equipment delivered here in the last 3 years. If something has changed, I don't know. But if they are going to make it that hard for the consumer to purchase, then they will lose business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughsawn Posted October 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 Interesting update! Laguna can't give anyone a delivery date. Neither retailers or me. 4 months is a good guess. Sounds like they wait until they have "X" number of orders, then they tell the guys in Taiwan to make them, then ship them here, then get them out for delivery. They don't keep any in stock. Is that B.S., or what??? I called Laguna several times during business hours, and can't get anyone on the line...just a recording. I left voicemails, and nothing. I sent 2 emails 3 days ago, and have not gotten a response. Unreal. Back to the Grizzly. I talked to a new customer support person, and she seemed ok. I have lined up a business that a friend is a big shot at, and got the green light to have one delivered there...fork lift, loading dock, and all. Grizzly has 200 units in stock. Now, after giving all the info the the cust serv rep 3 days ago (via email), if I could just get her to respond...I could get it ordered and on it's way. Does anyone really care about the customer anymore? This deal really has me scratching my head. Maybe I should just put some new knives in my 6" benchtop, and get to work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 I am dealing with the same issue on my new lathe but since I have a lathe. I new going in this was the situation so not really to worried but definitely agree its a bit much for sure. Good luck with the jointer looks to be a nice unit if you can actually get your hands on one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 Suck it up and go with baby poop yellow? https://www.acmetools.com/powermatic-8-in-parallelogram-jointer-with-helical-cutter-head-1610082/662755955839.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughsawn Posted October 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 That would be a lot of sucking up. The G0858 is 1/2 of that right now. I will just call a different rep today, and order from him/her. Guess one really isn't different from the other. Or, maybe I should just run down to Springfield (MO) and pick one up, myself. They charge $290 for freight, anyway. That's about what my fuel would cost. Minus a hotel room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 5 minutes ago, roughsawn said: That would be a lot of sucking up. The G0858 is 1/2 of that right now. I will just call a different rep today, and order from him/her. Guess one really isn't different from the other. Or, maybe I should just run down to Springfield (MO) and pick one up, myself. They charge $290 for freight, anyway. That's about what my fuel would cost. Minus a hotel room. Yeah i hear ya, i can't make your financial decisions and I get the difficulty. Paying for daycare my discretionary spending is pretty much zero now. That said I have yet to regret spending the extra money on top end machines, though my sample size is super small and very limited so it's probably best to ignore my advice. I'd really love to work with some Grizzly machines in person some day to be able to compare them. I think Grizzly machines are good but the customer service and delivery hurdles seem like utter BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted October 6, 2023 Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 On 10/6/2023 at 9:03 AM, roughsawn said: Or, maybe I should just run down to Springfield (MO) and pick one up, myself. If you've never been its a cool place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughsawn Posted October 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 Order has been placed. 7-10 days. Drew, you're welcome to see it in use after I have it set up. About a 45 min. drive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roughsawn Posted October 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 On 10/6/2023 at 12:55 PM, pkinneb said: If you've never been its a cool place I've been to Bass Pro Shops in Springfield several times over the years, but never Grizzly. Next trip there I will stop in and shop...er, I mean...visit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chestnut Posted October 6, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 6, 2023 2 hours ago, roughsawn said: Order has been placed. 7-10 days. Drew, you're welcome to see it in use after I have it set up. About a 45 min. drive. Deal! I'll bring hazel she's really good at sharpening chisels on concrete floors . 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted October 7, 2023 Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 On 10/6/2023 at 3:56 PM, roughsawn said: Order has been placed. 7-10 days. Drew, you're welcome to see it in use after I have it set up. About a 45 min. drive. So, it is the Grizz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roughsawn Posted October 7, 2023 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted October 7, 2023 Yep. G0858. 8"X76" parallelogram, helical head cutter, mobile base. Gonna get a workout. Added 2 stacks since this pic...lol 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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