estesbubba Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 So I'm sitting on the throne reading (OK, flipping thru ads) the Country Lanes magazine we get monthly in the mail. I saw this ad which pissed me off as a hobby woodworker as most of the wood I get is locally milled. It's people like this that make our most beautiful native hardwood even more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 In my neck of the woods, we have a couple of large kilns, that buy up a lot of our local hardwoods, dry it, then ship it directly to China, Viet Nam, India! They claim they get very high prices for our wood overseas. I believe it, cause they keep expanding! The power of the dollar rules ! And it sucks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cochese Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I would have thought his email address would have been another word that started with a d. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) The sawyer I buy from said these guys are usually con artists, trying to buy his logs for pennies on the dollar. When a customer does bring in a veneer quality log to be sawed, my sawyer does let the customer know he could get top dollar if he sold it for veneer (I assume "overseas mills" implied the log will be cut into veneer for cabinet grade sheet goods) Yes it does take long, clear walnut boards out of the market but veneer does stretch a scarce resource. Most folks think that resources are shipped to china to be processed because labor is cheap there. That is somewhat true but factoring in the cost of transport it becomes a bit of a push (notwithstanding their recent currency devaluation). The real cost savings for chinese manufacturing is that they have no environmental standards. Also Shannon wrote about this on his mcilvain blog. There were some tariffs in place to help equalize the cost between chinese and american plywood. These tariffs raised the price of Chinese plywood. The american manufacturers responded by raising their prices. In short the tariffs backfired, instead of making american goods more competitive, they made them more expensive. My point is, don't hate the players (in this case the log buyers and chinese mills), hate the game. Edited September 3, 2015 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I would have thought his email address would have been another word that started with a d.If it were, the first word would need to be 'tiny'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Yup. That sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapid Roger Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I heard a story a long time ago (and it may be BS) that foreign ships came to the west coast and bought logs. Then would go back to sea about 12 miles off the coast and turn it into plywood onboard the ship. Then come back into port and sell the plywood back to lumber companies. I also heard the same thing about iron ore and steel beams.As I said, it may be BS and I have NO proof if that is truth or not. Rog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 I heard a story a long time ago (and it may be BS) that foreign ships came to the west coast and bought logs. Then would go back to sea about 12 miles off the coast and turn it into plywood onboard the ship. Then come back into port and sell the plywood back to lumber companies. I also heard the same thing about iron ore and steel beams.As I said, it may be BS and I have NO proof if that is truth or not. Rog I work for a steel mill, and can say with confidence that it would take perpetual motion, time warping, and a black hole to turn iron ore into construction beams aboard any ship that ever sailed. Plywood, on the other hand ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Tennessee has iron guts to drink that stuff! I think harvesting the veneer is probable. You could shed the waste and load more product. Achieving decent glue and press in the salt air environment seems unlikely to me. There are too many variables throughout the process. Stranger things have happened though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Tennessee has iron guts to drink that stuff! I think harvesting the veneer is probable. You could shed the waste and load more product. Achieving decent glue and press in the salt air environment seems unlikely to me. There are too many variables throughout the process. Stranger things have happened though... Ha! Fat thumbs on a phone keyboard strike again. Fixed now, thanks C! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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