Let's talk about dogs.

[Llama 3765]

I want some solid reasons for using square dogs vs. round dogs.

 

Right now, I am leaning heavily towards round ones. 

 

Thanks!

[Freddie 640]

Here we go haha

[..Kev 5856]

Here we go haha

 

Kinda what I was thinking Freddie!

[Llama 3765]

Yeah, I know.... Here I am going against the grain, again... It's ok. I'm a big boy.  

[Tumbles1982 1]

Round is easy and square is hard. There you go! Square isn't worth the extra effort in my humble opinion.

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[rodger. 1117]

I like round dogs too. Easy to add another hole if you wish, after the glue up is done.

There are also lots of accessories available that fit in the round holes.

[Cochese 271]

Put me down for round. Can add them all after it's nice and flat.

[Llama 3765]

This is much more painless than I anticipated! thanks!

Those are my thoughts almost exactly. I'm thinking the rounds get a bad rap because they are easier.

[ChetlovesMer 342]

Mel, I've had this discussion many times with my local woodworker pals.

The main reason we came up with for square dog holes is that if you want to make your own dogs, it's a whole lot easier to add a spring to a square dog than a round one.

 

There was also a slight argument for the square dog staying... well, square... to the project.

 

I believe Marc covers this briefly in the video called "why I hate my bench" or "why I need a new bench" or something like that.

 

Personally, I have square dogs and round dogs in my bench, they are both pretty valuable. I like the square dogs across the front for pinching work pieces, but you can't beat the holdfast for quickly locking something down so stick some round dogs in the middle parts of you bench.. hey, just one guys opinion.

[Eric. 8813]

Only dorks use round dogs.  Real men make their own.  How's that for painless?

[Tom King 3750]

Square for me.

[..Kev 5856]

Only dorks use round dogs.  Real men make their own.  How's that for painless?

 

Yea but, you think a milkshake is a food 

 

I use the round ones way more often than the square.  The round holes just seem to have way more uses.

[Llama 3765]

Only dorks use round dogs. Real men make their own. How's that for painless?

Are you saying you can't make a round dog?

[Freddie 640]

I believe Mel feels like a square peg in a round hole right now.

[ChetlovesMer 342]

I have to agree with Eric.

Real Men Make their own dogs.

I'm actually somewhat surprised at you Mel. You seem like a "I'll build that damned thing myself" kind of guy. Didn't figure you to wimp-out.

 

Of course I still think you need a half dozen round holes in the middle parts of your bench to whack a holdfast down into.

[ChetlovesMer 342]

You can make a round dog, But it's a kick in the ding-ding to put a spring on it.

[Llama 3765]

This is just about the use of the dogs... I'll make either one.

I'm not 100% set on which one. The square ones look better... But the round ones seem to do the same job, and I can use it as a hold fast hole.

[Eric. 8813]

That's right.  Milkshakes are food, and dorks use round dogs.  Those 3/4" holes in benches are for holdfasts.

 

In all seriousness...the less metal there is in the way of my expensive hand planes, the happier I am.  And I'd hate to be a round dog dork.

 

If you're going to MAKE the dogs, why not just make the square ones?  Man, do you over-complicate everything or what?

[Llama 3765]

Man, do you over-complicate everything or what?

Precisely why I like the round dogs... Not as complicated. Ash dowel, cut a face and away we go! Not routing dogs all day, or routing benches to accept the square ones. Just a hole and a dowel, what's easier than that?

[Cochese 271]

Round bench dogs can be as simple as 3/4" dowel with a bit of scrap on top. No spring necessary. Easy peasy. No metal.

[..Kev 5856]

All kidding aside for a moment, is there a legitimate advantage to square over round?

[Freddie 640]

Round bench dogs can be as simple as 3/4" dowel with a bit of scrap on top. No spring necessary. Easy peasy. No metal.

 

then you have to remove and store when not in use. When sprung, they tuck away, and you dont lose them, and you dont fiddle looking for them when you need to secure a workpiece.

[..Kev 5856]

then you have to remove and store when not in use. When sprung, they tuck away, and you dont lose them, and you dont fiddle looking for them when you need to secure a workpiece.

 

That's legit Freddie!

[JerrySats 45]

I think there's advantages to both types. I dont see why you cant do both in a bench. I like the square dogs for keeping work square. The only real plus I see with round dogs is the ability to drill them anywhere and long after the build is complete.

[Llama 3765]

Then they hang a little low and hit the drawers everyone wants me to build...