larryjhill704 Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Anybody invest in this piece of equipment? Worth the money? Problems you’ve encountered, brand purchases and size. I seriously thinking about one, but need personal opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
difalkner Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 SuperMax all the way! We have the 19-38, got it about 6 years ago and it's been a great addition to our little shop. Easy to change paper, smooth running, accurate - can't ask for much more. Get the DRO and their caster set if it's in your budget (unless you plan to never move it around). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 I have had a General International double drum for about 20 years and love it. Mine is a 3hp 25" double drum that I have not encountered any issues with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryjhill704 Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2024 at 8:08 AM, difalkner said: SuperMax all the way! We have the 19-38, got it about 6 years ago and it's been a great addition to our little shop. Easy to change paper, smooth running, accurate - can't ask for much more. Get the DRO and their caster set if it's in your budget (unless you plan to never move it around). I can buy a new 16-32 for $1500 or a used 19-38 for the same price. 19-38 is about a year old. What u think? It’s going to be a SuperMax either way. No Jet or other brand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
difalkner Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Two reasons I went with the 19-38 - 1) the conveyor belt is about 3" wider than the drum so there's additional support for wider pieces, especially if you're flipping it around and running the other side through, and 2) I wanted to be able to do acoustic guitar backs/tops in one pass. They're about 16" wide, sometimes 17", and I didn't want to be at capacity for the width of the 16-32. Both are good machines, but for me the 19-38 was a better fit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2024 at 8:42 AM, difalkner said: Both are good machines, but for me the 19-38 was a better fit. I also have the 19-38 and have been pleased with it from day one. At the time I purchased mine the 16-32 didn't exist but even if it had I am pretty sure I would have still gone with the larger one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 I have the supermax 16-32 and love it. I have never installed batteries in the digital height gauge, so I can’t speak to that part of it. Every once in a while the conveyor belt will suddenly get off track. I’m not sure what causes it to lose tracking but it doesn’t take too long to realign it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryjhill704 Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 That’s interesting as to why it comes off, have you talked to Laguna, technical support as to what might causes it? I have a chance too buy one used, but I suspect, he’s selling because of an issue like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryjhill704 Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 What would a fair price to pay for a used 19-36? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
difalkner Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 On 1/24/2024 at 12:56 PM, larryjhill704 said: What would a fair price to pay for a used 19-36? How old is it, what condition is it in, is everything working (like the aforementioned conveyor belt), what options does it have, do you get sanding belts with it, etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryjhill704 Posted January 24 Author Report Share Posted January 24 Says it’s 2 years old, not sure on the belt, has table extensions, wheels. Maybe one sandpaper roll. He says the roll needs to be replaced. If the belt is not tracking properly, is that a somewhat easy fix, or is it a reoccurring problem? Sure appreciate your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
difalkner Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 I've found the conveyor belt very easy to track properly. In the 6-7 years we've had ours I've had to replace the belt one time and that was also very easy to do and get tracking properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 FWIW two Supermax 19/38's for sale in my market one $2,600 and one $2,800 the cheaper one looks like its be used...a lot... the other looks brand new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnG Posted January 24 Report Share Posted January 24 Less than a new one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
difalkner Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 On 1/24/2024 at 4:21 PM, pkinneb said: FWIW two Supermax 19/38's for sale in my market one $2,600 and one $2,800 the cheaper one looks like its be used...a lot... the other looks brand new. Is that the pricing for the oscillating drum model? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryjhill704 Posted January 25 Author Report Share Posted January 25 No it’s a couple of years old. At least that’s what he told me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 I would glue up some pieces, say to 24” - 28”:wide total, and ask to run it thru the sander and see how it performs. I find on my Jet, that a qtr of a turn on the crank on each pass thru, after rotating it, is ample. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted January 25 Report Share Posted January 25 I've had my 19-38 for about 10 years. Like David I have replaced the drive belt once. Easy to align, easy to change paper, consistent performance. I have never had to realign the height for parallelism since the first setup. Very solid machine. They seemed to have fixed nearly everything that was wrong with all the preceding models on this one. I'm sure that is why it sold like hotcakes back in the day and is still a solid investment. Like many things the price has gotten out of control so the used machines are going to go for more than one might expect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 On 1/24/2024 at 7:57 PM, difalkner said: Is that the pricing for the oscillating drum model? Actually they were both the 25/2 my bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryjhill704 Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 I’m thinking new, because if the used one has problems, I’m stuck. New dander has a two year warranty. I’m just being cautious, don’t want to buy a problem! Used sander is 19-38 for $1400, new is $1900. New 16-32 is $1400. What you think? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 I agree. IMO, unless the cost difference between new and used is just astronomical, the warranty itself would be worth the cost of new one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryjhill704 Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 I concur! New is less chance of a problem, plus warranty, and used is riskier. Don’t know if I really need anything bigger. Thanks for your thoughts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curlyoak Posted January 26 Report Share Posted January 26 I have 16/32 Jet. It gets the work done. But it is not industrial grade. The wider the work the tougher it gets. On a 10" wide figured oak it takes 3 passes on the same setting . Then I turn the crank about 1/16th of a turn, then 3 more passes. I use it for book matched figured panels for frame and panel construction. The big machines get it done much faster. But the price is too high and the space needed is too much. So I have the right tool for my needs. FYI, drum sanders require a dust collector. I tried a shop vac, not even close. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryjhill704 Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 I concur! New is less chance of a problem, plus warranty, and used is riskier. Don’t know if I really need anything bigger. Thanks for your thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryjhill704 Posted January 26 Author Report Share Posted January 26 On 1/26/2024 at 6:22 AM, curlyoak said: I have 16/32 Jet. It gets the work done. But it is not industrial grade. The wider the work the tougher it gets. On a 10" wide figured oak it takes 3 passes on the same setting . Then I turn the crank about 1/16th of a turn, then 3 more passes. I use it for book matched figured panels for frame and panel construction. The big machines get it done much faster. But the price is too high and the space needed is too much. So I have the right tool for my needs. FYI, drum sanders require a dust collector. I tried a shop vac, not even close. I’m really limited on space as well and I don’t built that large of projects. I think a 16-32 would be alright. A 19-38 is of course bigger, but 3 inches. I build more smallish tables and furniture. You need a dust collection for sure, the SuperMax requires a 650 cfm, while a larger shop vac doesn’t háček that. Some vacs are wall mounted, that’s a space saver. By the way, just curious, where are you located? I’m in SE Kansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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