dwacker Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 That is a stationary industrial table saw also. But no, I'm talking about the 10" saws. Such as the Delta Unisaw, Powermatic 2000, Grizzly G1023, etc. No those are not industrial saws just cabinet saws just small saws. But the discussion would probably be worthy of its own thread. The size of machines and cutters in a lot of ways plays a big roll in shop safety and performance in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CessnaPilotBarry Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 The right way to do........ANYTHING! I am a firm believer that there is no "right way" to do anything. It is what works best for you. Word! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 There's a WHOLE lot I disagree with in this thread. Think I'll ignore it lest I get in big troubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CessnaPilotBarry Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Sorry PB, but I've got to disagree with you on this one. 10" Cabinet saws can be bought to run on either single phase, or three phase. The chances of you finding three phase in other then an Industrial or Commercial setting are VERY slim to none. I think that may be a local thing... In my neck of the woods, being an original colony, we don't have as clean a break between residential and small industry as many parts of the US might. It's not unusual to drive past homes, then a small industrial park, then more homes, then a strip mall, then a single factory, then more homes... It sounds weird if you live in certain parts, but it also tempers rush hour, as everyone isn't moving from one part to another, then back, at the same times of the day. Most towns here were laid out long before "planning" created large developments. In fact, a "large" single family residential development might be 20 homes. We also don't normally have HOA's, except in condos and "over-50" developments. _I_ can't easily get three phase at home, because I have buried service in an area developed in the 1990's, but just one street over, three phase power is available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 There's a WHOLE lot I disagree with in this thread. Think I'll ignore it lest I get in big troubles. Don't get shy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 You know I'm not shy, but I don't think I can add anything here without sounding argumentative. Not gon doit. Wouldn't be prudent! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted December 31, 2013 Report Share Posted December 31, 2013 Let him have it Particle Board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 That is a stationary industrial table saw also. But no, I'm talking about the 10" saws. Such as the Delta Unisaw, Powermatic 66, or the imported Grizzly G1023, etc.If your saying any cabinet saw is an industrial tool, IMO you are wrong. I have owned and used contractor, & cabinet saws. It's not hard to overwhelm a contractor saw. I made 8 hard maple long grain cutting boards this Xmas season. at 1-1/2" thick cross cutting them to length even with a 1Hp contractor saw running a premium thin kerf blade, takes some patients to not stall the blade, or trip the breaker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Definitely not industrial. I think they are watered down versions for small shops. In testing the saws against each other, most eventually stalled to power feeders. That wouldnt jive in a true industrial setting. Most of todays industrial is power fed, cnc and the rest pneumatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I'll split. I agree with Freddie and PB but the question we are asked is: "Are they overrated?" That point can be made. However, in that case I do not want a hobby shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Somebody should start a new thread about " you know what grinds my gears" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghmyn Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Somebody should start a new thread about " you know what grinds my gears" Only if everyone begins their post with a picture of Peter Griffin sitting at a news desk. --- Eric, I want to hear these arguments! I love to hear woodworking banter. I'm pretty sure, from how long I've known you from this forum, I can tell your arguments are nothing personal but opinionated. If someone is going to really get heated over the fact that you choose machine cut dovetails over hand-cut (not sure if that's true for you, just an example), they might be the crankiest person in the world! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Somebody should start a new thread about " you know what grinds my gears" Done let's see if it takes off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Only if everyone begins their post with a picture of Peter Griffin sitting at a news desk. Also done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwalter5110 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Something overrated in woodworking? Well, I can tell you that it certainly isn't my skill. Hope you all have a nice New Year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 It's not hard to overwhelm a Contractor's saw if you don't have it hooked up to the proper circuit.in my shop it was the only thing on a 20 amp circuit.up until last month I was using a Delta ts-350, and before that I used my dads premium Delta contractor saw that was almost as old as I was. Both where 1 hp, in fact I have never seen a contractors saw that was 1-1/2 hp. Everything I have seen that had that much power was a Hybrid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 I feel that crosses the line of respect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopnhack Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Pocket holes... Ok, they have there place and I have made a few things with them, but when they tout them as the best thing since the rabbet joint, I take exception to that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krtwood Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Since Spagnuolo went after workbenches right when I committed to building a new one that I don't really need: Greene & Greene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan S Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 A Delta TS-350 is not a Contractor's saw Delta would disagree with you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pghmyn Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 A Delta TS-350 is not a Contractor's saw, and without giving me a model number on the other Delta, I have no idea which saw your talking about. If you have never seen a 10 inch Contractor's saw that has a 1 1/2 hp motor, then I give up. School is closed.I don't know, my man. You must be the only person that says that saw is not a contractors saw, I'm not sure you have quite come to reality on what a contractors saw, cabinet saw, or industrial saw is. Or, I'm unsure of your vague representation of the classes of saws. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Have to agree, the Delta TS-350 is a contractor saw. Both Delta and Craftsman had a line of contractor saws that had direct drive motors, but still had cast iron tops and metal bodies. I believe these saws were relatively short lived, and made way for bench top and job site table saws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llama Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 Since Spagnuolo went after workbenches right when I committed to building a new one that I don't really need: Greene & Greene. That will get you sent to the principals office! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post krtwood Posted January 1, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 That will get you sent to the principals office! Nah, but this will.. Greene #1: "I don't know, I mean sure we've succeeded in taking a perfectly good design and making it a complete PITA to build for no reason, but it's still missing something." Greene #2: "What if we added square pegs all over the place that don't actually do anything?" Greene #1: "And we can make them all proud of the surface and rounded on the end to make it even more of a PITA!" Greene #2: "Genius!" 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick2cd Posted January 1, 2014 Report Share Posted January 1, 2014 This thread is hilarious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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