shaneymack Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 No more plywood cases, or cabinets this large. It's such a pain to move around, plywood is cumbersome and unwieldy to work with. Joinery is no fun with ply, worrying about sanding through our chipping the very thin veneer. Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk Tom normally vanites and kitchen cabinets are built in smaller modular sections and screwed together in place. Maybe a better route next time. It will help with all the issues you are having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted September 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Up and at em! Sanded coat two lightly with some 400 grit.. (Preppin Weapon is awesome!) Wiped on coat number 3 for the side panels. Here's a question for you finishing people. Rather than do ARS for the outside of the cabinet, since it will be against a wall on all the outer parts of the cabinet with the exception of the front, would it be more cost effective to just throw a coat of minwax or some other cheap poly on the outside of the cabinet for protection against moisture, rather than doing any coats of ARS? I'd definitely prefer not to do the same finishing as the inside with multiple coats, and sanding. I'm finally realizing the stuff that is never seen doesn't need all the finish work as the visible parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Cheap poly or even shellac would be good for the outside against the walls. Shellac is a good moisture barrier but doesn't give the protection of poly. Is the vanity going to be enclosed? If so you might run into odor problems using an oil based finish inside it. Let it cure good and keep air moving through it until you install and close it up. I learned my lesson the hard way and now have a simple rule - no oil inside enclosed spaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted September 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 Dry fit before finishing the back and floor. Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 I put extra coats on the floor of sink base cabinets. It's just a matter of time until there is a leak or some bottle of lotion or cleaner gets spilled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted September 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 I put extra coats on the floor of sink base cabinets. It's just a matter of time until there is a leak or some bottle of lotion or cleaner gets spilled. That's a good idea, maybe 5 coats on the floor. Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted September 27, 2015 Report Share Posted September 27, 2015 I just hit the floor every time I put a coat on the project. Case inside, case outside, door front & back etc That makes it easier I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Prefinishing inside panels makes things easier. One less thing to worry about at the end. Once the glue is dry I will put the floor in, make sure it's flushed up and everything is square. Then the dividers get installed. Yay for relative dimensioning. Got some Bessey clamp extenders since I don't have clamps long enough to clamp 77" I drilled out my holes on the jet clamps to 15/32" (NOTE: DO THIS ON A DRILL PRESS) or this happensDad the old machinist cut and reground the bit 1 31" and 1 40" Jet clamp connected using Bessey extenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 You can use your hand drill but you have to start with a small drill bit and then step up gradually... and keep the bit oiled. Or you can just get a step drill bit, makes drilling on steel a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 You can use your hand drill but you have to start with a small drill bit and then step up gradually... and keep the bit oiled. Or you can just get a step drill bit, makes drilling on steel a lot easier.I did take the stepped bit approach, went up in 1/32" the bit caught and the drill twisted my hand, I tried to back the bit out and it snapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I see, I hate when that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Really cool how dad the machinist fixed that bit. Awesome. And cool cabinet also Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I broke a nice bit about six month back and went out and replaced it. I never thought of asking my machinist son in law to fix it. See the things you can learn from this forum are endless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted October 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 I broke a nice bit about six month back and went out and replaced it. I never thought of asking my machinist son in law to fix it. See the things you can learn from this forum are endless. Chet, he cut the bit square with an angle grinder, dipping it in water to cool it so the steel didn't get soft. Then he ground a new tip on the bench grinder. No special tools needed. Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Those plastic feet on the extender go towards the piece being clamped.When drilling stuff like that on the drill press clamp the bar down to the table before drilling. I tried to hold a part by hand, the bit caught and pulled the part out of my hand violently. When it slammed into the column the shaft of the drill press bent !Anyone need a 1940's Craftsman drill press with a bent shaft and no motor ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Cheap poly or even shellac would be good for the outside against the walls. Shellac is a good moisture barrier but doesn't give the protection of poly. Is the vanity going to be enclosed? If so you might run into odor problems using an oil based finish inside it. Let it cure good and keep air moving through it until you install and close it up. I learned my lesson the hard way and now have a simple rule - no oil inside enclosed spaces. Yup. The chest of drawers I made for my son that I finished in April with ARS is still unusable because the inside stinks so bad. Can't even put his clothes in it. After I finish my current project I'll be recoating the entire inside of the COD with shellac. Lesson learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Those plastic feet on the extender go towards the piece being clamped.When drilling stuff like that on the drill press clamp the bar down to the table before drilling. I tried to hold a part by hand, the bit caught and pulled the part out of my hand violently. When it slammed into the column the shaft of the drill press bent !Anyone need a 1940's Craftsman drill press with a bent shaft and no motor ?I clamped the bar to the table and I put the head of the clamp against my rolling tool cabinet so it couldn't get any momentum. My dad said in the machine shop they used to brace the piece up against the post of the drill press, after clamping it down so if you got a catch it wouldn't spin the piece. I did have the bit catch in the piece while in the press, the motor just spin on the belt and that big red stop paddle at the top made for a quick shut off of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
estesbubba Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Yup. The chest of drawers I made for my son that I finished in April with ARS is still unusable because the inside stinks so bad. Can't even put his clothes in it. After I finish my current project I'll be recoating the entire inside of the COD with shellac. Lesson learned.Let us know how the shellac works. My project was small with Danish oil as the finish and using shellac later didn't help much with the smell. It could have been because of contents had the oil smell embedded in them so I couldn't really tell if the shellac helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 That's another reason for prefinishing the panels. The vanity is still open since the doors aren't gonna be done until the rest of the case is complete. It will have some time to cure, though I've noticed most of the smell is gone already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 BOOM! Fit the floor today. It's taking a fair amount of coaxing to get that plywood at the back to be straight. There's a bow in it because it's such a long panel. Clamps on each side with the floor in, fits like a glove and squares up nicely at the bottom. The top panels and dividers will prove to be a challenge to get them installed any square. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 BOOM! Fit the floor today. It's taking a fair amount of coaxing to get that plywood at the back to be straight. There's a bow in it because it's such a long panel. Clamps on each side with the floor in, fits like a glove and squares up nicely at the bottom. The top panels and dividers will prove to be a challenge to get them installed any square.Come on dude, no pic? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 After a solid 9 days of applying finish to the floor. 5 coats, 3 days for the first coat to dry. Pocket holes for holding the floor down. My T15+3 is great for driving screws. Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgreenb Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Looking good Tom. The pocket screws were definitely the way to go. Brutal working with such big parts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Cancelleri Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Looking good Tom. The pocket screws were definitely the way to go. Brutal working with such big parts. Definitely the way to go. The ply bow was a challenge and a half to counter. The floor is about 3/64" proud of the right side front. Another reason I like face frames more than Euro style cabinet. Sent from my 831C using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Those plastic feet on the extender go towards the piece being clamped.When drilling stuff like that on the drill press clamp the bar down to the table before drilling. I tried to hold a part by hand, the bit caught and pulled the part out of my hand violently. When it slammed into the column the shaft of the drill press bent !Anyone need a 1940's Craftsman drill press with a bent shaft and no motor ?If you fish, it makes a nice anchor! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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