Brendon_t Posted February 3, 2016 Report Share Posted February 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, Immortan D said: Yeah, if your name is Brendon and you're a Snap-on LOVER LOL Fify. Funny thing is, I still bawk at festool prices.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrolan Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 On 2/3/2016 at 11:36 PM, Brendon_t said: You shouldn't use a 12 point for trans fluid plug or oil plug. Ask me how I know and what happened with the M6 I learned it on. . So...how do you know and what happened with the M6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Because I rounded over the oil plug on an M6 which then caused the whole crank case pan to be replaced at the cost of the dealer. . Spendy learning curve. This was early in my wrenching days. According to the other techs, it's common knowledge that was not common to me at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrolan Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Not as catastrophic as I had envisioned. I sometimes feel like "common knowledge" is really "stuff not to tell a new person so we can make them feel stupid later"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Not catastrophic as I didn't have to pay for it. All in, if I remember right, it cost about $5K to R&R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 I don't think I even own any 12 point sockets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwalter5110 Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 On February 3, 2016 at 0:46 PM, Immortan D said: Yeah, if your name is Brendon and you're a Snap-on sucker LOL There are cheaper, good quality alternatives out there, including Armstrong or SK Tools to name a few. Im also a tech. There may be cheaper alternatives to snap on sockets, but I pay the prices for convenience. I know every Friday my tool dealer will be there to replace anything that may be broken. It's VERY rare for me to break a snap on hand tool. Plus there is more than strength that goes into it. People think a #2 Phillips screwdriver is all the same. But none of them will grip a rusted Philips screw like a snap on screw driver does. It's all the specialty tools that I am having a hard time spending money on as I get older, when I can get them 60-70% cheaper from tool-topia.com 1 hour ago, Tom King said: I don't think I even own any 12 point sockets. The only 12 point sockets I own are specialty sockets for rebuilding Toyota engines. I don't exactly understand the purpose of them for general use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 I dropped my #2 Phillips a bit ago and snapped one side. My rep came to my house and dropped one in the mailbox next morning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 I hung around airports a lot when I was younger. Three things that I remember the A&P guys were not allowed to have in their toolboxes were: automatic center punches, adjustable wrenches, and 12 point anything. I've had on the dashboard of my truck for a couple of years some broken SnapOn tools waiting to catch a truck somewhere. A #2 Phillips with a broken edge (broke the first time I used it), a ratcheting screwdriver that skips, and a long 3/8" ratchet that the direction lever broke off of. Maybe I should send them to you Brendon with return postage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted February 13, 2016 Report Share Posted February 13, 2016 Snap on is for pros. Us mere mortals can do with less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 On February 3, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Chestnut said: I never understood why mechanics had so many tools, I'm saying this jokingly. In all honesty though i did a full engine rebuild on my pickup and used 8mm 10mm 13mm 17mm & 19mm, a dial gauge, and piston ring compressor. Oh yeah and a BIG hammer, some times you have to fix things jezza style. Right, I replaced the clutch in my Toyota. I think I used three wenches, 10-12-14mm. I get it though different cars, different sizes. But I can't fault a guy for having a lot of tools... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 Hey, I once pulled the engine out of a '69 Plymouth Fury, using only a flat screwdriver, a vise grip, and a rope hoist tied to a tree limb. Kind of a one-way operation, though. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted February 15, 2016 Report Share Posted February 15, 2016 On 2/13/2016 at 5:26 AM, Tom King said: I hung around airports a lot when I was younger. Three things that I remember the A&P guys were not allowed to have in their toolboxes were: automatic center punches, adjustable wrenches, and 12 point anything. I've had on the dashboard of my truck for a couple of years some broken SnapOn tools waiting to catch a truck somewhere. A #2 Phillips with a broken edge (broke the first time I used it), a ratcheting screwdriver that skips, and a long 3/8" ratchet that the direction lever broke off of. Maybe I should send them to you Brendon with return postage. Tom, if you go onto snap on website, there is a dealer locator with phone numbers and email. If there's one close to you, shoot them an email asking their schedule around you. They normally rebuild ratchets on site, replace screwdriver shanks on site. Keep in mind, a six pack thank you usually makes it worth it for them to stop by if you don't plan to spend more money on the truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwalter5110 Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 13 hours ago, Derek said: Right, I replaced the clutch in my Toyota. I think I used three wenches, 10-12-14mm. I get it though different cars, different sizes. But I can't fault a guy for having a lot of tools... I have to replace Tacoma, Tundra & Sequoia frames. 95% of the entire truck is taken apart with 10,12,14 & 17 mm lol I love the socket organizer that I have. It holds all my short and long 1/2" drive sockets, 3/8" drive sockets and 1/4 sockets. You can switch them to lock them in place if you need to carry the entire thing around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 11 hours ago, Pwalter5110 said: I have to replace Tacoma, Tundra & Sequoia frames. 95% of the entire truck is taken apart with 10,12,14 & 17 mm lol. You replace frames? That's like tearing the entire vehicle apart and putting it back together. Sorry not Like tearing it apart that's totally tearing the entire thing apart. How is that cost effective? Who the heck just has spare frames for new vehicles laying around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbj Posted February 16, 2016 Report Share Posted February 16, 2016 I got a piece of sheet metal, went to harbor freight and grabbed a bunch of the cheap socket rails and riveted them to the sheet metal. I was in a hurry so I just sharpie'd the sizes on the metal real quick assuming I'd come back and label it in a nicer way. Never have and it's been fine. Since then I've added a few sets sitting on short rails and the 1/2" set in the front. I'll probably expand my sheet metal system one of these days if I need more room. All in all it works pretty well, the only problem is you can't just grab say a metric 3/8" set and walk away with it. But like has been pointed out, most projects only need a few sizes so it's not really that big of a deal to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwalter5110 Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 13 hours ago, Chestnut said: You replace frames? That's like tearing the entire vehicle apart and putting it back together. Sorry not Like tearing it apart that's totally tearing the entire thing apart. How is that cost effective? Who the heck just has spare frames for new vehicles laying around? I've done close to 100 Toyota frames. In this part of the country, we use rock salt to melt the snow. The salt corrodes Toyota frames from 01-08 Tacomas, 01-04 Tundras and sequoias. Toyota covers them under warranty. There were earlier frames, I believe 98-01 Tacomas that rusted out, and Toyota was buying them back at 150% of kelly blue book value. Toyota bought Dana when they were going bankrupt from the frame recall and found it was cheaper to have dealerships replacing frames, than to buy the vehicles off the customer. Parts and labor to replace a frame is around $13,000. All I know is, somebody made a HUGE mistake LOL The funny part is, the frames built in Japan never rusted out, only the frames built by Dana (The same Dana that makes a ton of Ford parts.) Toyota claims that the EPA told them they couldn't use an anti rust ingredient when they dipped the frames because it wasn't environmentally friendly. 8 hours ago, kbj said: I got a piece of sheet metal, went to harbor freight and grabbed a bunch of the cheap socket rails and riveted them to the sheet metal. I was in a hurry so I just sharpie'd the sizes on the metal real quick assuming I'd come back and label it in a nicer way. Never have and it's been fine. Since then I've added a few sets sitting on short rails and the 1/2" set in the front. I'll probably expand my sheet metal system one of these days if I need more room. All in all it works pretty well, the only problem is you can't just grab say a metric 3/8" set and walk away with it. But like has been pointed out, most projects only need a few sizes so it's not really that big of a deal to me. I took all of my standard sockets home years ago. You have a nice set up! The snap on man loves you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 23 hours ago, kbj said: I like your setup from an aesthetic view. Before I start a job, I grab the few sets I'll need and put them in my roller cart so I don't have to run back and forth to the main box. When I was in a shop, I had two lifts I'd be working simultaneously. One lift may be waiting on parts while the other was getting worked on. It's a time suck to walk back and forth to grab individual tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbj Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 4 minutes ago, Brendon_t said: I like your setup from an aesthetic view. Before I start a job, I grab the few sets I'll need and put them in my roller cart so I don't have to run back and forth to the main box. When I was in a shop, I had two lifts I'd be working simultaneously. One lift may be waiting on parts while the other was getting worked on. It's a time suck to walk back and forth to grab individual tools. I agree on the time suck of going back and forth. When I had a shop we did bikes and the lift was right in front of my box so it really was as close as anything else. Now that it's at home, it is a little annoying walking back and forth. But like mentioned, cars seemed to be put together with 4 sizes of bolts these days so it's not terrible. If I was in a shop working multiple lifts I'd probably want something I could grab a set and go. I like posts like this, you can see different solutions then put one together that works for you. 14 hours ago, Pwalter5110 said: I've done close to 100 Toyota frames. In this part of the country, we use rock salt to melt the snow. The salt corrodes Toyota frames from 01-08 Tacomas, 01-04 Tundras and sequoias. Toyota covers them under warranty. There were earlier frames, I believe 98-01 Tacomas that rusted out, and Toyota was buying them back at 150% of kelly blue book value. Toyota bought Dana when they were going bankrupt from the frame recall and found it was cheaper to have dealerships replacing frames, than to buy the vehicles off the customer. Parts and labor to replace a frame is around $13,000. All I know is, somebody made a HUGE mistake LOL The funny part is, the frames built in Japan never rusted out, only the frames built by Dana (The same Dana that makes a ton of Ford parts.) Toyota claims that the EPA told them they couldn't use an anti rust ingredient when they dipped the frames because it wasn't environmentally friendly. I took all of my standard sockets home years ago. You have a nice set up! The snap on man loves you! Thanks! It's been many years of tool buying. It doesn't hurt as bad little by little. Lately it's been the Festool Dealer that loves me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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