minorhero Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Just purchased the 3hp with 30" fence from the Delaware Woodcraft for 2729$. Been saving up for this one and the combination of no freight and no sales tax plus thier mobile base promotion was too good to pass up. Good thing I bought it today as it was the last one they had in stock. Anyone ever move one in an suv? I have a Subaru crosstrek and a Subaru forester. But it would be easier to do it in the crosstrek. I am going tomorrow to pick it up. This will be the first machine in my shop I will be buying new. The next newest machine is from the late 70s or early 80s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Congrats on the new saw, im sure you will love it! The cabinet comes in a pretty big box im not sure you will be able to get that in the back of the crosstrek. Worst case scenario i guess you could remove the box and styrofoam pieces. Did you get the overarm dust collection with it? If not, you should its a great addition to this saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Congrats on the new saw hope that you love it. Do you have a trailer and a hitch? I don't know if the SUV is going to cut it. Just the weight alone getting it in and out is going to be tricky. If i were you i'd go to u-haul or somewhere and rent a pickup, or find a trailer if you have a hitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Great choice! As I recall, mine came in one big heavy box for the saw with the fence, rails & extension table packed separately with everything bundled on a pallet. The main box is really heavy & quite big. I used a pick up, so I'm no help there. If you haven't picked it up yet, I would encourage you to have a look at the T-glide fence. It's much better than the Premium fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Here is a picture to help you visualize the size. You rail box will be shorter as i have the 52" rails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim DaddyO Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Congrats on the purchase. Good saw from what I hear. I just won't buy one because I don't want to contribute to Steve Gass's legal shenanigans, but I would never begrudge someone else from getting what they desire. Hope you have a lot of fun building with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-MattK- Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 mine is still in a box in the garage - let me get dimensions of the big box for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 No matter how you get it home you are probably going to need some help unloading when you get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dknapp34 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Got mine delivered, but I'd be surprised if it fit in an SUV. As others mentioned, the box is pretty big. Even if it fits, I'd be weary of putting in the back of an SUV because of the weight. It took three people to move mine down to my basement, and that was with everything that could be removed from the box removed, and I only have the 1 3/4 hp version. I think the 3hp is quite a bit heavier. Enjoy the saw! Been doing some small projects the past few weeks since I got mine and it's been a dream to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-MattK- Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 I brought mine home in the back of my pickup. Here are the dimensions of the boxes I can get to in the garage: Big box with the saw in it: 30 1/4 x 26 1/4 x 42 1/4 Fence: 40 1/2 x 18 1/4 x 8 1/4 Wings (I think): 44 1/2 x 29 x 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Do yourself a favor, rent a small U-Haul or something like that. -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 Congrats on the new saw..The guys that have them say they are great saw.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minorhero Posted March 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Seems pretty consistent most folks are saying to rent a truck. That being said, I have moved a unisaw in a Forester before and I really don't want to rent a truck tomorrow if I can help it. I took some measurements today and I think my Crosstrek is a little bit too small (height is the determining dimension). But the Forester has a few inches to spare. My plan now is to take the forester to the store and load the saw into the back. The saw is going to come in under 700 lbs and I have loaded that much into my old forester before without any real problem. A 400 lb saw is practically a light weight. Heck I carry more in human weight when 3 fatties get into my car ;p I think if I take it off the pallet I really shouldn't have any trouble. Worse case scenario is once I get to the store and see everything I will have to go to a uhaul and rent a trailer. However I really don't think that will be an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Good Luck and have fun!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodger. Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 sweeeeeet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post minorhero Posted March 5, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Ok, things happened, here is my report. First of all I need to make a statement. This should really all be obvious to any objective observer, but for purposes of... well manners I suppose, I am going to state them as well so hopefully folks don't think I just ignored them. I began this thread by asking a question about loading the 3hp sawstop into an SUV. And to summarize, everyone very helpfully told me: "you really shouldn't do that, its a bad idea, it will cause you unpleasantness, and frankly there are ways to do it better that won't cause you all that much difficulty." I read these replies, realized they were probably right, and decided to go on my merry-way despite it all. I would like to emphasize that I understood even then that the advice was in fact good. But when all the excuses and justifications are boiled down, what I am left with is this statement: I am rather cheap. Yes I know I just spent a LOT of money on a saw, but this is literally the first new piece of equipment I have ever purchased outside of my first table saw (a ridgid I got on clearance.. not sure if I can count that one as it was clearance...). Every other tool I have purchased used, many of which were purchased in non functional states for less then 100 dollars and I restored. Literally the most expensive tool I purchased before this was $400 (and that was my Ridgid table saw) If I can save a few hundred by squeezing a saw into an SUV, then by golly I am going to do it. That brings us up to about 2:30pm eastern standard time. I show up at the Wilmington, Delaware Woodcraft store and walk around for a little bit (how can I resist looking to see what they have?) After a while a fellow comes up to me to see if I need any help and I tell him that I am here to pickup my saw. I paid for it yesterday over the phone and at that time they told me it was the last 3hp saw they had left in stock (apparently the other 2 they had in stock sold in the last couple of days). I am taken up to the register where I wait in line. While this is going on I can't help but overhear that the guy behind me is also buying a sawstop. When I get to the front of the line and speak to a different person they first tell me they can't find my order. There is some discussion between two employees at the register (one of which turns out to be the guy I made my order with yesterday) and the bottom line is that I was VERY fortunate to be ahead of the other guy in line behind me who is also buying a sawstop. Because apparently they forgot to log my order into their little inventory book yesterday and as a result they were about to sell my saw to the guy behind me. (he did not look particularly happy about all this) Have I mentioned yet that this Woodcraft is over 2 hours from my house? Anyway they sorted this out and while this is a somewhat dramatic retelling I really honestly have no issues with the woodcraft employees; they were polite, and helpful and the mistake was an honest one. While I was there I also checked out the "premium" fence vs the "t glide" fence. I immediately realized that the fence I have used on previous sawstops was the t glide and it was clearly superior to the premium. For an additional $170 I upgraded to the 36" t-glide fence. With all the paperwork done I then proceeded to the main attraction, the loading. This is the pile that greeted me on the loading dock when I pulled my Forester around back: The woodcraft folks had a fork lift and they brought this pile over to my car. The smaller boxes were all relatively light and easy to deal with. The saw itself was a different story. The woodcraft folks wanted to load this thing (pallet included) directly into my SUV. I however had no intention of putting the pallet in my car. For one I was not entirely sure it would fit with the pallet (actually I am pretty sure it would NOT fit with the pallet). For another, I just didn't see the need to bring the pallet home with me (more fool me - much later I learned that the box can kinda fall apart without the pallet to provide rigidity). We cut the straps securing the box to the pallet and then with an ever increasing number of men who were frankly stronger then I was, we muscled it into the back of my Forester. I think in the end we had 4 woodcraft employees plus myself loading this thing. Final result is here: So the answer is, yes you can in fact load a 3hp sawstop into a Subaru Forester. There is no way this would work with my crosstrek by the way. Also quite frankly, it was a real pain loading it into my forester. It was only possible because 4 guys from woodcraft helped me load it. Have I mentioned that the woodcraft employees are helpful and really pretty great? Driving home was a non-issue. The fun time began when I got home. My wife, was there to greet me and was very tolerant of me showing off my new saw (really just the box that contained the saw) and didn't look the least bit bored (my wife is pretty great). After dinner I went back out and began unloading. At this point I should also mention that I don't really have many male friends who are both physically fit, and live nearby. To be more precise.., I have none that fit into both of those categories. That means that the unloading crew consisted entirely of yours truly. Here is how I did it. My garage has a slight cement lip to enter it. I backed up my Forester so that the rear was facing that lip and then put down three 2x6s so that one end butted against that lip and the other end rested on the bumper (or a tarp that was on the bumper) this way the 2x6s couldn't slide back because they were butted up against this lip. It looked like this: I then got into the car, put my back against the box, and pushed off with my feet till the box tipped up onto my little ramp. My master plan was to somehow get the box off of the ramp onto a little cart I had. The whole situation looked like this: And this is where my brilliant strategy kinda went to crap. Frankly everything that happened with unloading up to this point was fine. It was the getting this ungainly box onto the cart that was the issue. That took.... a while.... There were blocks involved. At one point there was a piece of wood being used as a pry bar. I don't think I did it right..... If I were to do it again I would have waited for my wife to be available. Just someone holding the cart in place would have been a big help. Having a large piece of wood strapped to the cart so the box wouldn't hang off the edge and tip the cart over would also have been a big help.... Anyway eventually I got the box onto the cart and pushed it up to the sliding glass door that was the largest entry into my shop. Here is what it looked like: If that door looks like its a tight fit.. well .... it was. But this was not amateur hour..................................... I had taken measurements........ I totally had millimeter to spare. Originally I planned to pull my cart into my shop using the wheels on the cart to move my saw effortlessly around. Yea..... that didn't happen. Because of the size of the box I had to put down the "handle" that the cart is equipped with and thus had no leverage when it came to getting it over the door threshold and into my actual shop. Thus I had no choice but to simply get behind the box and push it off the cart and into the door of my shop. That was easy, and when done it looked like this: Now that box was flat on the floor, getting a hand under it so I could tilt the box up became essentially impossible. If I had a handtruck it would have been simple. I don't own a hand truck... so it was impossible. Instead I spent about 20 minutes muscling this thing around the floor to get the saw into a place I was happy with. Then I unpacked it and then following the handy dandy directions to set it upright. Here is the current status (Incidentally in this picture you can see my 1950 Delta Unisaw off to the right, this sawstop is to be its replacement): And that is where I left it. To sum up today's events I will say the following. Everyone told me not to transport the 3hp sawstop in an SUV because it is a bad idea. Having now transported and unloaded a 3hp sawstop in an SUV I can say with absolute certainty that it is in fact a bad idea, and everyone was quite right in telling me not to do it. I did it anyway because I am cheap. Having done it I reported how I did it here so folks who find themselves in a similar situation might benefit from my failures. I got the saw to my shop safely and I didn't hurt myself doing it. But frankly if I were older or had a bad back, the physical effort I expended to unload the saw would not have been possible. Additionally there were several points along the way that would have been significantly easier if I had followed folks advice. It would have been easier to load the saw if I had rented a uhaul truck. It would have been easier unloading the saw with more people on hand. It would have been easier unloading it by myself if I had a better cart or my existing cart but had made the "bed" bigger with some plywood strapped down to it. However... if I had it all to do again... I still would have picked up the saw in my SUV, because at the end of the day... I am cheap. If I were more motivated, (and frankly less tired) I would totally be out there right now setting it up. As it stands I can't help but feel I have done a lot for the day. Also I decided a beer would be a really good idea right about now. Here is what that looks like: Cheers folks. If you read this long rambling post my hats off to you. I wrote it while drinking the afore mentioned beer. And now that it is done, so am I 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceHoleInOne Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Epic story! Glad it worked out for ya....so your ball's drag on the floor now? -Ace- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Wow. You must be exhausted, I'm tired from reading your post. Lol !! Good job man and congrats on the sawstop. Its an awesome saw. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-MattK- Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 As another cheap guy who moved a SawStop on his own (though I do have a pickup), I'm really proud of you! Mine came out of the truck and into the garage and onto a moving dolly - there was a similar moment when it was precariously balanced on the tailgate of the truck! It's still there, waiting to be wheeled across the drive to its new home in the shop in a few weeks. Enjoy the new saw!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 My hat is off to you for being willing to tell your story in all it truthfulness. Enjoy your beer you earned it, you are truly a Minor Hero!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick S Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Nice job! I think you'll be happy with the fence upgrade. I'm curious to hear your thoughts after assembling it. I've put hundreds of machines together over the years, but I've never seen a better combination of excellent instructions, packaging and thought put into making it as easy as possible for the end user to assemble. Enjoy your saw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Seriously jaw dropped and i forgot what i was doing that is EPIC!!!!! I LOVE the Subaru forester even more now. You sir are a champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary-ks Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 " Every other tool I have purchased used, many of which were purchased in non functional states for less then 100 dollars and I restored. Literally the most expensive tool I purchased before this was $400 (and that was my Ridgid table saw) " " (Incidentally in this picture you can see my 1950 Delta Unisaw off to the right, this sawstop is to be its replacement): " So is the Delta going to be set up for Dado's only now????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted March 5, 2016 Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Great story & thank for sharing it in all its gruesome detail. Glad you able to get the T-glide fence, it really is much better. Not that the other one is terrible, just that it's not nearly up the standard of the rest of the saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minorhero Posted March 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2016 Thank you everyone for the kind words and hearty encouragement. Yesterday was definitely a lot of fun, and today promises to have a big reward at the end once I get the saw all setup. 9 hours ago, Gary-ks said: So is the Delta going to be set up for Dado's only now????? Unfortunately not. I really don't make enough dados to justify the amount of space both saws would take up. The unisaw has been a good saw to me but I will sell it off in the near future. Just have to get it out of my shop and into my garage so it can be sold more easily. It got into my shop with the help of a bunch of movers. I am definitely going to need the help of at least one other person to get it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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