Janello Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 I had a black cherry tree come down in the residential buffer zone at work. It's on the neighbors fence and he asked for us to cut it up. I obliged of course ! I've never worked this wood before and I can't find any pics on the interwebz that I can rely on that have a natural finish. I'd like to see what this stuff looks like if you have pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Chest of drawers- Cherry drawer fronts, sides and back. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Shane is that cherry or black cherry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 They are both the same. Like walnut and black walnut Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk http://www.wood-database.com/lumber-identification/hardwoods/black-cherry/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 There is a difference in those Shane.. This top is black walnut and the base is regular Western walnut.. It's not the best picture but, I think you get the point.. As for the difference between Cherry and Black cherry, I don't honestly know.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 In the sw, black walnut and walnut are not the same. English walnut is called walnut or claro walnut. Black walnut is black walnut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhighlander Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Ask Eric. He could probably use the distraction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 There is a difference in those Shane.. This top is black walnut and the base is regular Western walnut.. It's not the best picture but, I think you get the point.. As for the difference between Cherry and Black cherry, I don't honestly know.. As far as I know the its all the same. Walnut, black walnut and all the other names people give it. Unless of course your referring to claro or peruvian. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk In the sw, black walnut and walnut are not the same. English walnut is called walnut or claro walnut. Black walnut is black walnut. I always thought people just gave walnut a bunch of different names for the same thing- Black walnut. Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janello Posted May 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 We have a stale mate. Summoning Eric or Steve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Sending up the bat signal. @Eric @wdwerker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janello Posted May 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Mike it's not that I don't believe you, but I am confused. I tbought PA cherry is black cherry? Which in turn is different from your normal cherry tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 24 minutes ago, Mike. said: If it grows it the St Louis region some people call it "grumpy cherry" By that token, is a Phoenix cherry a "sweaty cherry" cali a "bro cherry" and sw Missouri would be an "uncle grandpa cherry"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Must... Refrain... Words... ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 As far as I know all domestic cherry is the same wood regardless of the commmon name used. And walnut & black walnut are Juglans nigra and the same. English walnut & Claro walnut are specialty woods that are almost always labeled as such. Not if she is faster than her cousins ...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JosephThomas Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 1 hour ago, wdwerker said: As far as I know all domestic cherry is the same wood regardless of the commmon name used. And walnut & black walnut are Juglans nigra and the same. English walnut & Claro walnut are specialty woods that are almost always labeled as such. Wanted to +1 this part and ignore the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob493 Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 As a rule, stick to genus to id woods in a particular fashion. English walnut, peruvian walnut, american walnut, all different species but all called "walnut". Don't be fooled by monikers "black walnut" "bastogne walnut" "claro walnut" "crotch walnut" blah blah. It could all be from the same tree, it depends on the figuring, not the species (not necessarily... ). To my knowledge, "black cherry" and "Cherry" are the same genus, and the same thing. The closest comparison I can think of is "swamp ash" and "northern ash". They are the same damn tree, but due to the location where they grow, they have some slightly different properties, but they do have a quite similar physical appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Black cherry is cherry, there is no difference. It's just that people think they sound smarter if they add the "black" part. What you have, John, is a cherry tree. Same story with walnut. People call walnut "black" walnut so it sounds cooler. It's just walnut. Out west there's a tiny geographical area where you can find claro walnut, and English walnut can be found where they were planted, but it is not a native species. 99.9% of the time, when you see a piece of walnut, it's just a piece of walnut, whether it's being called walnut or black walnut or chocolate salty walnut...it's just walnut. If you see something labeled as claro or English or Turkish or something else, then that's what you have...otherwise it's just walnut. I'll continue to disagree with Mike about the color differences in cherry from region to region. The last pack of Pennsylvania cherry we got in was a sickly pale yellow color, while the Missouri cherry we have right now is a rich, deep salmon color. I think a lot of it has to do with how long ago it was milled and how it was dried. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Black cherry is cherry, there is no difference. It's just that people think they sound smarter if they add the "black" part. What you have, John, is a cherry tree. Same story with walnut. People call walnut "black" walnut so it sounds cooler. It's just walnut. Out west there's a tiny geographical area where you can find claro walnut, and English walnut can be found where they were planted, but it is not a native species. 99.9% of the time, when you see a piece of walnut, it's just a piece of walnut, whether it's being called walnut or black walnut or chocolate salty walnut...it's just walnut. If you see something labeled as claro or English or Turkish or something else, then that's what you have...otherwise it's just walnut. I'll continue to disagree with Mike about the color differences in cherry from region to region. The last pack of Pennsylvania cherry we got in was a sickly pale yellow color, while the Missouri cherry we have right now is a rich, deep salmon color. I think a lot of it has to do with how long ago it was milled and how it was dried. Eric to the rescue ! This is what I always thought. Thanks for confirming Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric. Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Mike. said: in any species you can see huge color variations Agreed, but I'm not so sure it's as geographical as you make it sound..."Pennsylvania cherry is redder." Color can vary from mountain top to mountain top, or even tree to tree. I'm not convinced yet that there's any universal rule about geographical differences in color. Like I said, the last batch of Penn cherry that came in was nasty yellow...explain that one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janello Posted May 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Interesting stuff. Especially the west virgina cherry. Thanks gang, that clears it up well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davewyo Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Made from "natural" black cherry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee-dub Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Color variations in cherry can be wonderful or challenging. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 Pallet cherry.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob493 Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 8 hours ago, Eric. said: Agreed, but I'm not so sure it's as geographical as you make it sound..."Pennsylvania cherry is redder." Color can vary from mountain top to mountain top, or even tree to tree. I'm not convinced yet that there's any universal rule about geographical differences in color. Like I said, the last batch of Penn cherry that came in was nasty yellow...explain that one... Weather and growing conditions are quite different, and do produce differences in trees. I think its fair to categorize them regionally, but it may not be universally accurate. The cherry I have right now is almost padauk red from michigan. I dont buy my wood in mississippi, so i cant say if they are "less red" lol. Northern woods are typically more dense, and that could account for color differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted May 11, 2016 Report Share Posted May 11, 2016 7 hours ago, davewyo said: Made from "natural" black cherry. Completely different animal. Where black cherry means something is in dietary marketing. Lumber cherry trees and edible cherry trees are vastly different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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