pkinneb Posted November 13, 2016 Report Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 hour ago, Brendon_t said: Sometime with pva glue, it will slightly warp wood. especially thin stock. I assume because of the water in it. epoxy does not again assuming because of no water. . Good to know...Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SawDustB Posted November 23, 2016 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 So I have still been working away on the bench, despite the lack of updates. There's only so many posts I can put up about planing more boards... Although bear in mind this pile is about half what I took off of one particularly annoying board, and you'll get the picture. I've been trying to get the boards jointed much more consistently for the legs, since there isn't the big lamination to keep them flat. I have all the leg stock at least at s2s at this point. I glued up the first leg tonight, and would have done the second had there been more clamps. I've also been a bit distracted by restoring a couple of hand saws that I borrowed from my dad. Both were rusty, although the large hand saw was covered in surface rust and had peeling finish on the handle. After derusting, some elbow grease and arm r seal they look a lot better. The back saw is done, but there other handle is still curing. They look a lot better now, but they're still pretty dull (at least for hard maple). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Looking awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat60 Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Looks good. Bet your looking forward to using your bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Looks great!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted November 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Thanks guys. Yes, I'm going to be very excited to start using this. This project has involved so much hand planing that my lack of a work bench is driving me nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaneymack Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Good progress, Brian! Keep the updates coming ! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted November 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 3 hours ago, shaneymack said: Good progress, Brian! Keep the updates coming ! Sent from my SM-N910W8 using Tapatalk Well, I did get another leg glued this morning. I'm hoping to have a set by the weekend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted December 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 I finally got a little shop time with being off for Christmas. I finished up my leg blanks, so now they just need to be cut to length and have joinery cut. The legs have ended up causing me some grief, but they've turned out OK. I'm thinking 37 inches for the height. I'm 6'1", so I know that's a bit on the higher side, but it would make it the same as the table saw. I can always make it shorter later if it's a problem. I did also manage to put the back slab through the planer. I finally just did it on my own, since I was having trouble tracking down help. Next up is changing my planer blades, then doing a finish cut on most of the surfaces. At that point, I can either work on the front slab or build the base. Any opinions on the best order? I'm thinking the top, but that means I finally have to commit to the plans for the wagon vise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Kev Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 Typically the top first as that drives the decisions for the base. Coming along nicely! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkinneb Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 I agree with TIODS top first. Build is looking good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 I agree in the top first. Committing to the top will solidify plans for the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardA Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 I'm 6'2" and I went with 37 1/2 for height... works out very well., so 37" should be a good number for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted December 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 Cool, thanks guys. I'll have to draw it out in SketchUp, but I know it'll work. I'm hesitant to cut into the top for the end vise, since at that point I'm committed. I did get my second vise screw, a dowel making set, and the dog hole drilling setup today . There shouldn't be much more I need to buy to finish building. I still want to find a nice set of cast hand wheels instead of the bar for both vises. I've found nice ones, but have yet to find two different sizes that'll work and look good together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon_t Posted December 25, 2016 Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 For the leg vise, a bigger hand wheel is nice. For the end, I don't think it matters as long as it isn't above the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted December 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2016 For the leg vise, a bigger hand wheel is nice. For the end, I don't think it matters as long as it isn't above the top. I want to find something in the 8-9 inch range for the leg vise, and ideally around 5 inches for the wagon vise. The only matching option I've found is hand wheels from grizzly, but they're not my favorite for looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted December 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 In case anyone has a good (Canadian) source, I'm looking for wheels like this: The small one is easy, around $20 from busy bee tools. Finding the larger one for a reasonable price is proving to be the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 eBay has lots of old stuff that might take some spit, polish, drill, and tap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted December 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 eBay has lots of old stuff that might take some spit, polish, drill, and tap. That's where I've been looking, aside from locally or on Amazon. The problem is most of the US sellers want more to ship a hand wheel to Canada than it's worth. I did consider using a vintage valve hand wheel for the leg vise, which I think would look cool, but I'd want the wagon vise to at least sort of match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpt life Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Is Canada shipping that bad or are they just not wanting the hassle? Many of us here wouldn't mind shipping a single package to help you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drzaius Posted December 26, 2016 Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Not just the shipping; there are also customs & brokerage fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted December 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2016 Is Canada shipping that bad or are they just not wanting the hassle? Many of us here wouldn't mind shipping a single package to help you out. Like@drzaius said, it's a combination of things. It's not uncommon to have a $30 item with $50 total for shipping and customs off eBay. Depending on what it is, just the shipping via USPS may not be too bad, but Canada Post is expensive so it jumps when you cross the border. It's ridiculous that it's far cheaper to have goods shipped from Hong Kong than from Ontario or the US. I'm sure I'll find something, it just usually means being a lot more patient. I do appreciate the offer, though. If I find something fantastic I can't get otherwise I'll keep it in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 I finished planing the slabs (and legs), and cut the front slab to length. I couldn't bring myself to do it with the circular saw, so my new carcass saw did the job instead. Pretty good, nothing left that the little block plane couldn't handle. I'm now at the stage where I have to figure out the vise before going further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 One thing I have noticed is that my front slab isn't 100% straight. Obviously there was a bit of tension when I did the glue up. It's not much, maybe max of 3/32" over the 6 foot span. The way I was going to position the slabs it comes out from the bench in the middle. Is this something I need to fix? I'll be going the hand plane route and using my #7 if it is. This seems like something I should correct now if I'm going to. I did also consider setting up my router with a straight edge, but that scares me a little to do on the outside visible edge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawDustB Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 So I haven't managed to get to the computer yet to use SketchUp... But here's my lovely artist's rendering of the end on view of the tail vise. The general idea is that there will be an L shaped wood block that will travel with the dog. Likely I'll make it by gluing the dog block to more wood to make it work. The runners will be uhmw plastic, and I bought some miter track for them to slide in. My only concerns are that 1. A 1 1/4" thick section of the bench top won't be a problem. 2. The only way to install the track and runners is by removing the end cap. 3. I expect there will be a lot of minor adjustments required. Anyone see any major problems? I should note that I've also considered putting the runners at the bottom. They can't line up with the screw, since that won't give me enough wood to fasten them to. I can see pros and cons to both locations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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