bushwacked Posted February 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, wdwerker said: If you have a decent drill press euro concealed hinges might work well for you. Figure out how much the hinge edge of the door overlaps the face frame. Then measure the amount the face frame hangs in from the side. I would be glad to walk you through the set up to drill the 35mm cup holes. They make those hinges with the soft close feature built in to them. oh wow, that would be awesome!! I have a floor standing Delta drill press. I would need to measure tonight when I get home ... my face frame is 1 1/2 wide ... I am thinking of running my doors 1" from the edge. so that would give 1/2 overhang. I am not 100% though ... I may back it off to 3/4" from the edge and that would give 3/4 overhang. I guess it all depends on the hinge. 2 minutes ago, Chet K said: This would make a great tutorial video Steve. I agree with Chet .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted February 3, 2017 Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 You do realize that shifting the overlay will change the gap between the doors in the center ? I usually aim for 1/8 to 3/16 gap between a pair of doors. Most euro hinges have adjustments side to side, up and down and in and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, wdwerker said: You do realize that shifting the overlay will change the gap between the doors in the center ? I usually aim for 1/8 to 3/16 gap between a pair of doors. Most euro hinges have adjustments side to side, up and down and in and out. Yes, I know it will change the gap, but this is a big cabinet so I was debating on how close it actually needed to be. ok, I will probably keep it around the 3/16 or so gap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wtnhighlander Posted February 4, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 4, 2017 Let's send up a Bat Signal for@vinnyjojo! He lives in the Atlanta area, maybe we can convince him to collaborate on a video with Steve! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 planning on getting my doors measured out to see where I want them then figure out my overhang and all that. I should have measurements tonight for you @wdwerker so you can let me know if Euro hinges will work and where I should start looking at sizes needed and getting setup for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheperd80 Posted February 6, 2017 Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 Lookin good bushwacked! Euro hinges are easy, they usually come with a drilling template. A drill press is nice but not needed, ive done em free hand several times. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2017 So here's where I am at. There is 7/8" overhang. Not sure why I was going for a 3/4 but guess I mathed it up wrong. The face frame is 3/4 thick if that matters. Got the face frame sanded before I started messing with the doors. Next I'll round over everything with a 1/8" bit. Then start plotting install for the doors. Thoughts on hinges or where I am at with doors to install hinges? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 so as far as hinges go ... with my weird overhang measurement does that limit me on the hinges I can use? Should I try to trim up the doors a little to get them a little smaller? Rebuild the doors? lol Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 26 minutes ago, bushwacked said: so as far as hinges go ... with my weird overhang measurement does that limit me on the hinges I can use? Should I try to trim up the doors a little to get them a little smaller? Rebuild the doors? lol Thoughts? It's a full overlay, I think euro style hinges are your best choice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 10 minutes ago, Immortan D said: It's a full overlay, I think euro style hinges are your best choice. So something that looks like this? Would these work for this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Yes, you will need something like that in the first pic. The problem is the frame on your doors is a bit on the narrow side, so a regular euro hinge for frameless doors wouldn't work IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Immortan D said: Yes, you will need something like that in the first pic. The problem is the frame on your doors is a bit on the narrow side, so a regular euro hinge for frameless doors wouldn't work IMO. the frame is 2" wide and 3/4" thick ... if that makes a difference. Or do you still consider that too narrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Just now, bushwacked said: the frame is 2" wide and 3/4" thick ... if that makes a difference. Or do you still consider that too narrow? Yes, but only about 3/4" of the frame is not overlaid. I don't think that's enough, but I'm not sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Immortan D said: Yes, but only about 3/4" of the frame is not overlaid. I don't think that's enough, but I'm not sure! oooh ok ... gotcha! maybe something like that would be easier to just get everything on and moving along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 They will work and maybe look good if you can center them on the face frame. Similar to that one: http://www.rockler.com/hardware/hinges/partial-wrap-shutter-hinges 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 Got wrappped up finishing a big order. The Blum 39c358b.20 hinge will work better than the first picture but that particular hinge is for a 1 1/4" overlay. You would need one that was 7/8" overlay, or trim the door width ever so slightly on both edges so they still match and use a 5/8"to 3/4" overlay hinge which is common. The exposed oil rubbed bronze hinges will work if you like that look. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 perfect, thanks guys! Are Euro the only hinges that can move in and out and up and down once installed to make the slight adjustments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortan D Posted February 8, 2017 Report Share Posted February 8, 2017 1 minute ago, bushwacked said: perfect, thanks guys! Are Euro the only hinges that can move in and out and up and down once installed to make the slight adjustments? No-mortise hinges have some minimal adjustment capability (oblong holes). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Figure while I'm still working on hinge selection I'd be productive. Knocked out the shelves tonight. Slooooowly keep on keeping on 6 of them ready. Not sure we will use 6 but it is there just in case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 every little bit helps toward the end goal, nice work. flush trim bit to even out the top edge or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Those no mortice hinges give the traditional exposed barrel with decorative ends appearance and adjustability. One leaf has vertical adjustment the other has horizontal. There is one round hole in each leaf that you use once the doors are adjusted to keep them from slipping out of place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 every little bit helps toward the end goal, nice work. flush trim bit to even out the top edge or something else? Yep flush trim bit. Easiest and quickest way I know. Those no mortice hinges give the traditional exposed barrel with decorative ends appearance and adjustability. One leaf has vertical adjustment the other has horizontal. There is one round hole in each leaf that you use once the doors are adjusted to keep them from slipping out of place. Thanks for the explanation Steve that helps a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 In your case the hinge would be in between the door and the face frame. I would do a test run mounting the hinge between 2 pieces of scrap first. Then you will have an idea what to do. This application will limit the swing to around 90 degrees. Those oil rubbed liberty hinges will give you at least 180 degrees of swing but they need to be installed carefully(no adjustments) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 14 hours ago, wdwerker said: In your case the hinge would be in between the door and the face frame. I would do a test run mounting the hinge between 2 pieces of scrap first. Then you will have an idea what to do. This application will limit the swing to around 90 degrees. Those oil rubbed liberty hinges will give you at least 180 degrees of swing but they need to be installed carefully(no adjustments) hmmmm ... I am thinking I will need something that has a little wiggle room in them judging by the test fit. Everything is not lining up 100% like I was hoping. So I would need to move to the Euro style to get that ability to make slight adjustments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdwerker Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Yep. Email me your choice of hinge and I will try to walk you through the installation. You will need a 35 mm bit, usually a forstner type. A drill press and a easy jig to make, plus scraps to practice on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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