Jfitz Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I was vacationing with the family in NH and the wife found an "Antique Store" (usually, a place I refer to as "other peoples junk" store) so we detoured after our departure to check it out. It was in an old barn-style building and it had a room off the back mostly dedicated to tools. I was mostly impressed with the number of moulding planes - if I was more into hand tools and I knew what to look for, I might have picked up several. I did, however, pick up a Stanley No 7 jointer plane as I've been thinking about getting one for a while. They had 2, pretty much the same, but the one that looked like it had been cleaned up once in its long life looked in better shape but the frog screws were butchered and the blade was terrible. So I picked up the less expensive one and will spend some time cleaning it up. Interestingly it has an owners name stamped on the side so I'll look that up to see if I can find any info. I hope to put it in use soon. They had a #8 corrugated but it was too much $$ IMO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treeslayer Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I looks like its in pretty decent shape John, you going to restore it or just clean it up enough to use? And i have no idea about value, what did you have to pay, if you don't mind me asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted February 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 I'm looking to both restore and use it, if that makes sense. I'll disassemble it completely, cleanup each piece best I can, and although I'll clean up and sharpen the current blade I'll probably buy a newer one for it. I don't know how far I'll go with the Japanning / Paint. Probably not much other than cleaning. The knob and tote seem to be in good shape so I'll clean them up and use them and then go from there. I paid $75 for it. Its sister was going for $95 and the No 8 I mentioned was $165. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 This looks like a pretty good deal. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Cutter-Chip-Breaker-Record-05-1-2-06-07-mjdtoolparts/112797428870?hash=item1a43402c86:g:cLAAAOSwKZ5Z1qU0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaac Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 I've picked up most of my hand planes at antique shops. If you keep your eyes out, you can get good deals, ranging from $10 to $20 for block planes, #5's, etc. Of course there is some real junk out there as well. You can accomplish a lot of rust removal by simply soaking all the metal components in a mixture of vinegar and salt for a few days. At this price range, even if you get a dud that is in worse shape than you initially thought, you really aren't out much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Hall Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Hi jfitz, Interesting #07, is it a high knob or low knob and is there any patent dates on it. Do you know how to date it? Tommy Hall Amesbury, MA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmize Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 I've had good luck recently with the industry strength goof off to remove rust in those hard to get places Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Llama Posted February 25, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Tommy Hall said: Do you know how to date it? Start by buying it a drink! 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Hall Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 Ok Ok we digress, http://www.hyperkitten.com/tools/stanley_bench_plane/ is how to date a Stanley plane, I assume that this has come up on this blog before. I admit, if I was at a bar and she was covered with sawdust I might bring up how to date a Stanley plane! Not sure if it would work, my shop is quite small. Ok, I admit I collect Stanley Type #11 planes and would like to help jfitz with his find. I went into a collectable place in Newburyport, MA a couple years ago and picked up two Stanley's, a #06 & #07 for $120, for the wood knobs and handles and when I got them home, looking them over I felt the #07 was not used much at all, OMG it created an education in how the Stanley finished the castings. Cold And Not Wintery In MA, Tommy Hall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted February 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Tommy Hall said: Interesting #07, is it a high knob or low knob and is there any patent dates on it. Do you know how to date it? Hi Tommy. I appreciate the help. It looks to be a low knob, based in pictures I found online. I found several sites on how to date it - I used that Hyperkitten "flowchart" to date it and it indicates a type 9. I have a "less nice" No 5 I picked up from a guy several years ago - I think I paid $20 for it and an old eggbeater drill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 @RichardA has spruced up several old planes, a couple of which I now be the proud owner of and he does a darn nice job. I don’t know if he has a special technique or just drags them down the road behind his pu but you might quiz him on his secrets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 @Jfitz I have a #7 that I've been having a hard time getting to extend the blade low enough to take a shaving. Can you take a close up picture for me of the adjustment knob and the lever it interfaces with? It's a bit difficult to find online. The #7 i have was given to me by a guy my dads age that i became woodworking buddies with a while back. I know it may be a bit of sacralige to some but i love the PMV-11 blades and chip breakers that lee valley sells. I have a couple in my old planes and they are wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted February 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Chestnut said: I have a #7 that I've been having a hard time getting to extend the blade low enough to take a shaving. Can you take a close up picture for me of the adjustment knob and the lever it interfaces with? It's a bit difficult to find online. Sure, I'll try to get to it tonight. Do you already have a replacement blade in it? Or the original blade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jfitz said: Sure, I'll try to get to it tonight. Do you already have a replacement blade in it? Or the original blade? I have both but it's worse with the replacement. I do HAVE to widen the mouth yet. I just haven't worked on it because i don't really need a #7 but i do appreciate having it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted February 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, Chestnut said: I do HAVE to widen the mouth yet. OK. I was going to suggest that - I recall having to do that on an older #5 on which I upgraded to a newer (thicker) blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom King Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 Chestnut, Did you move the frog back to allow the blade a little more clearance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted February 26, 2018 Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tom King said: Chestnut, Did you move the frog back to allow the blade a little more clearance? Yes but to move it far enough the bevel makes contact and then doesn't extend far enough. Maybe I'll revisit this plane tonight and finally get it figured out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted February 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2018 14 hours ago, K Cooper said: @RichardA has spruced up several old planes, a couple of which I now be the proud owner of and he does a darn nice job. I don’t know if he has a special technique or just drags them down the road behind his pu but you might quiz him on his secrets I don't have a pickup, so that method is out It's not hugely pitted, so I was thinking of a white vinegar soak.....but I'm sorta leaning towards stopping at the box store and picking up some evaporust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Hall Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I have had good luck with Evaporust, here's another one DR X Rust Remover. I have had no problems with modern thicker blades in my old Stanley's. They're really nice in block planes with adjustable mouths. Not sure if a replacement chipper is important, are there feelings on that issue out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 12 hours ago, Jfitz said: OK. I was going to suggest that - I recall having to do that on an older #5 on which I upgraded to a newer (thicker) blade. Never mind on the picture. 7 hours ago, Tom King said: Chestnut, Did you move the frog back to allow the blade a little more clearance? Yes i did and i found a sweet spot where i don't have to file away any of the mouth but the blade doesn't contact any of the sole. I must have been in a rush the first time i set up the plane. Works beautifully. The clamps on the bending form seem like they've been in that position for weeks! Almost done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmize Posted February 27, 2018 Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 I had to do the same when I upgraded my #3 to a hock blade. It takes some fiddling especially if you don't have the frog adjustment screw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz Posted February 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, Chestnut said: i found a sweet spot where i don't have to file away any of the mouth but the blade doesn't contact any of the sole. Nice! It looks good, especially with the Veritas blade and chipbreaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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